Polystyrene repeat unit molecular weight.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the unit molecular weight of polystyrene, focusing on the structure of the styrene monomer and the counting of carbon and hydrogen atoms. Participants explore the molecular composition and clarify the contributions of different parts of the structure.

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates 8 carbon (C) and 7 hydrogen (H) atoms but is unsure where the additional H is coming from.
  • Another participant references a graphic of the styrene monomer, asserting it has 8C and 8H.
  • Several participants request visual representations of the unit to clarify the structure.
  • Discussion includes counting hydrogen atoms on the benzene ring and the side chain, with varying counts reported by different participants.
  • One participant asserts there are 5 hydrogens on the benzene ring and 3 from the side chain, totaling 8 hydrogens, while another disagrees, stating there are only 4 on the ring.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the number of hydrogen atoms in the structure, with no consensus reached on the correct count. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accurate molecular weight calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants' calculations depend on interpretations of the molecular structure and visual representations, which may lead to different conclusions about the number of hydrogen atoms.

AndrewDe
Edit: thread moved from non HW forum.
I'm trying to calculate the unit molecular weight of polystyrene. I'm given the structure, and I have to count all the elements in the structure. To calculate the weight, I keep counting 8C & 7H. The correct answer is 8C +8H. I'm having a hard time deterring where the additional H is coming from.
 
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Can you draw the unit and post it as a picture?
 
Picture from the textbook.
 

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Borek said:
Can you draw the unit and post it as a picture?
Posted a picture from the textbook. Sorry about the wrong thread posting.
 
How many hydrogen atoms on the ring? How many hydrogen atoms on the side chain?
 
Borek said:
How many hydrogen atoms on the ring? How many hydrogen atoms on the side chain?
I see 4 in the ring, and 3 in the structure. Idk where I'm leaving the other H atom off.
 
There are 5 in the ring, one on each C except the C joined to the rest of unit..
 
AndrewDe said:
I see 4 in the ring

And - as epenguin said - that's where you are wrong. You were probably mislead by the picture and the way it depicts the hydrogen atoms on the alkane chain.

Imagine just benzene - how many hydrogens on the ring? How many hydrogens will be left on a mono substituted ring?
 
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AndrewDe said:
Edit: thread moved from non HW forum.
I'm trying to calculate the unit molecular weight of polystyrene. I'm given the structure, and I have to count all the elements in the structure. To calculate the weight, I keep counting 8C & 7H. The correct answer is 8C +8H. I'm having a hard time deterring where the additional H is coming from.

The benzene ring has 6 carbons and 6 hydrogens. There side chain takes the place of only of the hydrogens on the ring, leaving only 5 hydrogens on the ring. The side chain has 3 hydrogens. So, add 3 hydrogens from the side chain + 5 hydrogens from the benzene ring = total 8 hydrogens.
 

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