Position of an object after a certain amount of time?

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The problem involves determining the position of an object after a certain time, given its initial velocity, mass, and net force acting on it. The context is rooted in kinematics and dynamics, focusing on the effects of force on motion over time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of impulse and momentum, with some attempting to apply kinematic equations to find the final position. Questions arise about the correct interpretation of initial conditions and the application of forces.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with participants sharing their attempts and questioning the accuracy of their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of kinematic equations, and there is a recognition of the need to clarify initial velocity and force application.

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Participants note confusion regarding the initial velocity direction and its impact on calculations. There is also mention of the need to ensure that the correct equations are applied to relate distance, velocity, and acceleration.

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Homework Statement


Your location is at the origin. When an object passes you, it is traveling 5 m/s in the −z direction. If the object's mass is 200 kg, and the net force on the object remains constant at ‹ 0, 0, −30 › N, what is the position of the object 20 seconds after it passes you?

Homework Equations


The Change in momentum = Force * deltat

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved for the impulse, and got the vector, <0,0,-600>N. This is equal to the final momentum minus the initial momentum. The initial momentum is <0,0,-8>m/s * 200kg. And the final momentum is pf = vf * 200kg. I solved for vf, using vf = vi + Fnet*deltat, but I am stuck.

I keep getting the wrong answer, and I am unsure of where I've went wrong and what I should do next. Thanks.
 
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Loppyfoot said:

Homework Statement


... what is the position of the object 20 seconds after it passes you?

...

The Attempt at a Solution


I solved for the impulse, and got the vector, <0,0,-600>N. This is equal to the final momentum minus the initial momentum. The initial momentum is <0,0,-8>m/s * 200kg. And the final momentum is pf = vf * 200kg. I solved for vf, using vf = vi + Fnet*deltat, but I am stuck.

I keep getting the wrong answer, and I am unsure of where I've went wrong and what I should do next. Thanks.

You're looking for the final position, not the final velocity. Consider using a different kinematic equation, one that relates distance traveled to force applied to a mass (acceleration).
 
So I'll use:
deltax = vi*t + 0.5*a*t^2.
I plug in the proper values, and I don't get the correct answer. I am unsure of where I am going wrong. The initial position is, <0,0,0>, so I don't need to worry about that.
 
Show your work.
 
Ok,
xf = xi + vi*t + 0.5*a*t^2
xf = <0,0,0>m + <0,0,5>*20 + 0.5*(<0,0,-30>N/200kg)*(20s^2)
 
Check your velocity vector against what the original problem states.
 
So, the velocity would be <0,0,-5> since it is in the -z direction?
 
Loppyfoot said:
So, the velocity would be <0,0,-5> since it is in the -z direction?

What do you think?
 
Yes, sir. I got the correct answer. Thanks for your guidance!
 
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you could have also used 2nd eqn of motion
s = ut + (1/2)at^2
 

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