Poteintial difference to move mass

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a charged sphere suspended between two parallel plates and the potential difference required to achieve a specific angle with the vertical. The subject area includes concepts from electrostatics and mechanics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the forces acting on the sphere, including gravitational and electric forces, and how these relate to the potential difference. Questions arise regarding the relevance of the negative sign in the potential difference calculation and the need for a free body diagram to clarify the forces involved.

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Some participants provide guidance on the need for a free body diagram to derive expressions for the electric field and potential difference. There is an acknowledgment of a potential typo in the original post, and the discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding the setup and calculations.

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Participants note that the problem may require additional work and clarification on certain assumptions, such as the balance of forces and the implications of the angle given in the problem.

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There's a small sphere of mass m that hangs by a thread. the sphere is between two parallel plates L apart. The sphere has a charge Q. What is the potential difference that will make the plates to assume an angel of 20 degrees with the vertical?

[tex]F=QE=mg \sin \theta[/tex]
[tex]E=\frac{mg \sin 20}{Q}[/tex]
[tex]V= - \int _0 ^L \frac{mg \sin 20}{Q}dx[/tex]
[tex]V= - \frac{mgL \sin 20}{Q}d[/tex]

i feel like this question should involve more work. was my thought process correct?
 
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Yes, it's correct. (But the d in your last line is presumably a typo.) Also, since the question asks for "potential difference", the minus sign is not really relevant.
 
yes it's a typo

could you explain why the potential difference is not relevant?
 
indigojoker said:
There's a small sphere of mass m that hangs by a thread. the sphere is between two parallel plates L apart. The sphere has a charge Q. What is the potential difference that will make the plates to assume an angel of 20 degrees with the vertical?

[tex]F=QE=mg \sin \theta[/tex]
[tex]E=\frac{mg \sin 20}{Q}[/tex]
[tex]V= - \int _0 ^L \frac{mg \sin 20}{Q}dx[/tex]
[tex]V= - \frac{mgL \sin 20}{Q}d[/tex]

i feel like this question should involve more work. was my thought process correct?

How do you get the first statement? Do a free body diagram of the forces on the suspended mass. There is the tension in the string, gravity and the electric force. From a free body vector diagram you should be able to get the expression for E and then V (=E/L) .

AM
 
If you do the free body diagram you will see that the gravitational and electric forces have to be balanced by the tension in the string.

[tex]\vec{T} = q\vec{E} + m\vec{g}[/tex]

This means that:

[tex]T\sin{20} = qE[/tex]
[tex]T\cos{20} = mg[/tex]

Dividing:

[tex]qE/mg = \tan{20}[/tex]

[tex]EL = V[/tex], so

[tex]V = mgL \tan{20}/q[/tex]

AM
 
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