Potential Energy and WET (Incline with friction)

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A 6.00 kg block is initially moving up a 30° inclined plane at 8.50 m/s but comes to rest after 3.00 m, prompting a discussion on the friction force and coefficient of kinetic friction. The calculations for the friction force (fk) appear to be incorrect, with participants noting that the sign in the energy equation may need adjustment. The conservation of energy principle is emphasized, indicating that the kinetic energy lost is transformed into potential energy and work done against friction. The need for accurate calculations is stressed, as the results for part (a) directly affect the ability to solve part (b). The discussion highlights the importance of correctly applying energy conservation principles in solving physics problems involving friction on inclined planes.
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A 6.00 kg block is set into motion up an inclined plane with an initial speed of v0 = 8.50 m/s (Fig. P7.23). The block comes to rest after traveling 3.00 m along the plane, which is inclined at an angle of 30.0° to the horizontal.

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(a) Determine the friction force exerted on the block (assumed to be constant).
(b) What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

Wfk + Wg = -.5mvi2
(fk)(x) + (m)(g)(h) = (-.5)(m)(vi2)
(fk)(3) + (6)(9.8)(3sin30) = (-.5)(6)(8.5^2)
fk = -101.65

Final answer is incorrect. Cannot move on to (b) without understanding (a). Any ideas?
 

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closer said:
A 6.00 kg block is set into motion up an inclined plane with an initial speed of v0 = 8.50 m/s (Fig. P7.23). The block comes to rest after traveling 3.00 m along the plane, which is inclined at an angle of 30.0° to the horizontal.

(a) Determine the friction force exerted on the block (assumed to be constant).
(b) What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

Wfk + Wg = -.5mvi2
(fk)(x) + (m)(g)(h) = (-.5)(m)(vi2)
(fk)(3) + (6)(9.8)(3sin30) = (-.5)(6)(8.5^2)
fk = -101.65

Final answer is incorrect. Cannot move on to (b) without understanding (a). Any ideas?


Looks to me like the wrong sign.

KE = PE + Wf
 
Tried positive 101.65; the answer is still incorrect.
 
closer said:
Tried positive 101.65; the answer is still incorrect.

When you change the sign there you don't get the same answer. That was my point.
 
The change in KE is negative though.
 
closer said:
The change in KE is negative though.

It's the conservation of Energy.

Where does the KE go?

It goes into PE and to work done by friction.

KE = PE + Wf
 
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