What is the Power Output of Gravity?

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The discussion centers around calculating the power output of gravity in the context of a cat falling from a height of 10 meters over a duration of 1.43 seconds. The problem involves understanding the relationship between mass, gravitational force, work, and power.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to calculate power using the formula P=mgd/t and discuss the significance of units for the variables involved. Questions arise regarding the correct interpretation of gravitational acceleration and its implications for the calculation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct interpretation of gravitational power output and clarified the distinction between average power and instantaneous power. There is an ongoing exploration of the effects of gravitational variations based on location and the implications for calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of specifying units for each quantity involved in the calculations. There is also mention of the potential confusion between the symbols for gravitational acceleration and the gravitational constant.

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Homework Statement

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It takes gravity 1.43 seconds to pull a 3.67 kg cat down from a 10m tall ledge. What is the power output of gravity? [/B]

Homework Equations


P=mgd/t
P=w/t
P=power
M=mass
G=gravity
D=distance
W=work
T=time[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


P=(3.67)(9.81)(10)/1.43
P=251.77
 
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Kyle Wies said:

Homework Statement

:
It takes gravity 1.43 seconds to pull a 3.67 kg cat down from a 10m tall ledge. What is the power output of gravity? [/B]

Homework Equations


P=mgd/t
P=w/t
P=power
M=mass
G=gravity
D=distance
W=work
T=time[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


P=(3.67)(9.81)(10)/1.43
P=251.77

Do you have a question? Do your quantities ##P, M, D, W, T## have units? If so, you need to state them at some point.
 
Oops forgot to add those!
There's
N-Newtons
M-mass
J-joule
S-seconds
N*m-Newton mass

My question is what is the power output of gravity. I'm not sure if it is just 9.81 or something else. Any guidance helps!
 
The power output of gravity is ##P_g=\frac{dW_g}{dt}## where ##W_g## is the work done by gravity on the object. It is not "work divided by time".
 
Kyle Wies said:
Oops forgot to add those!
There's
N-Newtons
M-mass
J-joule
S-seconds
N*m-Newton mass

My question is what is the power output of gravity. I'm not sure if it is just 9.81 or something else. Any guidance helps!

The standard value for the acceleration (##g##) of gravity (near the Earth's surface) is about 9.80665 (m/s2), which rounds to 9.81 if we want three significant figure accuracy. However, most "elementary" physics applications often take ##g = 9.8 \; m/s^2##; I, personally, use 9.81.

In fact, due to "centrifugal" effects caused by the Earth's rotation, the actual value of ##g## depends on latitude:
$$ \begin{array}{lr}
g_{\rm{poles}} &=& 9.832 \; m/s^2 \\
g_{45^o} &=& 9.806 \; m/s^2\\
g_{\rm{equator}} &=& 9.780 \; m/s^2
\end{array}$$
So, unless you are doing super-accurate ballistic or aeronautical computations, you can just go ahead and use ##g = 9.81##.

By the way: NEVER denote it by ##G## as you did; in Physics the symbol ##G## stands for the "gravitational constant", not the acceleration of gravity. People might very well subtract marks if you use ##G## instead of ##g##.
 
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kuruman said:
The power output of gravity is ##P_g=\frac{dW_g}{dt}## where ##W_g## is the work done by gravity on the object. It is not "work divided by time".
@Kyle Wies , in case you are confused by that post, let me clarify.
The question ought to have asked what the average power output was over the given time. You have correctly answered that.
@kuruman's point is that the power is not constant. Since the force is constant, it increases in proportion to the velocity.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
due to "centrifugal" effects caused by the Earth's rotation
To be accurate, the centrifugal effect changes apparent gravity, not the actual force exerted. The reduction at the equator is about 0.3%. In addition, because of the shape of the Earth, the radius is greater at the equator, reducing the actual force too - by about 0.2% compared with the poles. So the total reduction in apparent gravity is about 0.5%.
 

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