Pressure issue on pipeline splitting

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The discussion revolves around calculating the required total head for a pump system that splits into two pipes leading to cyclones. Participants explore how to account for pressure requirements at the exit of each pipe and the implications of flow conditions on head loss calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks whether to add 140 kPa for each pipe or just once when calculating total head requirements for a pump system that splits.
  • Another participant suggests that the pressure in the pipes is influenced by various factors such as discharge conditions and pipe characteristics, indicating that only 140 kPa should be added.
  • A different participant notes that without flow, the split does not affect the total head calculation, emphasizing that only height is relevant in that scenario.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the total head calculation, which includes height, head loss due to friction, and other factors, while questioning how to incorporate the pressure needed at the exit of each cyclone.
  • One participant concludes that the pressure requirement should be added only once to the total head calculation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement that the pressure requirement can be added only once, but there is also uncertainty regarding the implications of flow conditions and how they affect head loss in the system. The discussion remains somewhat unresolved as different perspectives are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the impact of flow conditions on pressure and head loss, and there are unresolved details regarding how to accurately account for head loss due to the split and other system components.

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Can anyone give me some assistance on this problem:

I have a pump below a sump of 1m high and pumping upward in a pipe that splits near the end.
I require at least 140kPa pressure on EACH pipe. I know I need to enter the pressure in terms of head into the total head (physical height - suction height + total head loss) required, but what happens with the split? Do I add 140kPa to the total head required, or do I add (2 x 140kPa)?

Thanks!
 
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The pressure in the pipes will be determined by the discharge conditions, pipe material, pipe size and geometry, any valves, etc. But to answer your question, it's just the 140 kPa.

What do you mean, though, by "add 140 kPa to the total head required"? Are you sizing the pump?
 
Without flow, you don't have to add anything for the split, just height is relevant (you can imagine a single pipe as many pipes right next to each other if you like, it does not change the result). With flow, it depends on the pressure loss due to the flow.
 
I guess I didn't explain clearly...sorry about that.
I have a pipe system that runs from the pump 8m up to 2 cyclones. The total head would be the 8m + headloss due to friction + headloss due to split + headloss due to any bends, valves, enlargements, etc. + head needed at exit. I need 140kPa (14.27m) in each cyclone. Do I need to add the 14.27m once to the rest of the head loss and height or do I need to add it for each cyclone? I know in parallel pipes the headloss is equal across each pipe, just scratching my head over the pump pumping into the cyclones.
 
Yep, just add it the once.
 

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