Pressure Loss in Transmission Line: Analyzing Reducing Union, Filter & L Pipe

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Pressure loss in a transmission line can be analyzed using the Darcy-Weisbach equation for major losses due to friction and minor loss coefficients for fittings, which can be found in datasheets or engineering tables. The discussion highlights the need to consider both major and minor losses when assessing pressure loss through components like reducing unions and filters. The impact of oscillation and backflow on pressure loss through a diaphragm is also examined, emphasizing the importance of calculating velocities rather than making assumptions. Additionally, the relationship between pipe diameter and frequency is questioned, suggesting the need for further research and literature review on the topic. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for accurately determining pressure loss in unsteady flow conditions.
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I would like to define pressure loses through transmission line to the transducer. In transmission line I have a reducing union, filter and L pipe. How I can find this differences?

In case of frequency my reducing union reduce pipe diameter 6 mm to 3 mm how i can determine my frequency by these two diameter value?

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Can you give more information?
What frequency are you reffering to?

Pressure loss in pipe work due to friction ('major losses') is generally found via:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darcy–Weisbach_equation

Pressure loss due to fittings are 'minor losses', the coefficicnt for your fittings may be found in their datasheets or from general tables:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/minor-pressure-loss-ducts-pipes-d_624.html
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/minor-loss-coefficients-pipes-d_626.html

If this is just a dead end line to a pressure gauge then there is no flow and the pressure loss is zero.
 
I actually try to define the pressure loss through diaphragm. When turbulent flow is acting to pressure diaphragm, there is two situation. First of all the diaphragm is always under oscillation. This is the reason why I want to separate the problem into 2 section. First of all when fluid is coming and crushing with diaphragm and extending it, the deflection rate is so small but when it goes back it makes back flow. and velocities are really small I guess, but my advisor wants me to know it. If its negligible still he wants me to find why it is negligible. Boundary conditions are min deflection and maximum deflection.
 
The exactly question is actually to check whether pressure loses are negligible in unsteady (turbulent, oscilation) conditions.
 
can12345 said:
First of all when fluid is coming and crushing with diaphragm and extending it, the deflection rate is so small but when it goes back it makes back flow. and velocities are really small I guess, but my advisor wants me to know it.
Why not calculate the velocities rather than guessing? A raw feed from the transducer should show the oscillation frequency.
What literature have you found on the topic? This is an old problem, it's why gauges are liquid filled, probably since their invention. I'm sure research has been done in the area.
 
How I can determine this velocity? Can you give equation or help please?
 
calculate a flow rate from swept volume & frequency.

billy_joule said:
What literature have you found on the topic?
 
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