Projectile Motion in 2D: Solving for Maximum Range in Inclined Planes

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The discussion focuses on solving for the maximum range of a projectile on an inclined plane, particularly when the angle α is zero. A participant questions why the conventional method fails to yield the correct answer in this specific case, despite the lack of restrictions on α. It is clarified that in the flat case (α=0), the initial speeds u1 and u2 must be the same due to geometric considerations, leading to equal ranges R1 and R2. This understanding resolves the confusion regarding the conditions needed for accurate calculations. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing geometric relationships in projectile motion problems.
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Three particles are projected in the air with the minimum possible speeds (particle at point A with u1,at B with u2 and at point C with u3), such that the first goes from A to B, the second goes from B to C and the third goes from C to A. Points A and C are at the same horizontal level. The two inclines make the same angle α with the horizontal, as shown. The relation among the projection speeds of the three particles is
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Relevant Equations
Range of a projectile=(u^2*sin2α)/g
I know the conventional method for solving this question using the formula for maximum range of a projectile in an inclined plane, but since it is an objective problem, if we consider a non general case where α=0, then clearly we can see that (see attachment) only one option matches which unfortunately isn't the right answer. I would like to know that why doesn't this method work since in the given question there is no restriction on α, it could take any value, so the given answer must be consistent for all values of α. What am I missing, is there a catch in the part that they are projected with minimum possible speed, if so then what should be the condition so that we get the correct answer for the α=0 case?
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In the flat case, u1 and u2 are the same, so answers B and D both fit.
 
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haruspex said:
In the flat case, u1 and u2 are the same, so answers B and D both fit.
That's interesting, but I still don't get why they should be the same?
 
kshitij said:
That's interesting, but I still don't get why they should be the same?
Why what are the same? u1 and u2 in the α=0 case?
 
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haruspex said:
Why what are the same? u1 and u2 in the α=0 case?
Yes, I was asking why is u1 and u2 same in the α=0 case? But know I get it as from geometry R1 and R2 are equal so their speeds must be same. Thank you so much, I was stuck with this problem for quite some time 😅
 
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