Projectile/ Trajectory equation

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion equation derived from an experiment involving a marble released from an inclined ramp. Participants are examining the relationship between vertical and horizontal distances, represented by the equation y/x=[g(1+k^2)x]/2u^2 + k, where k is a constant related to the motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the meaning of the constant k and its derivation, while also seeking clarification on how to arrive at the given equation. Some participants suggest that k may relate to air resistance and encourage the exploration of trigonometric identities to further develop the equation.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various attempts to manipulate the equations and compare them. One participant expresses uncertainty about their approach, while another confirms that they are on the right track. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the relationships between the variables, and some productive guidance has been offered without reaching a consensus.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for deriving the equation. There are ongoing questions about the definitions and roles of certain variables, particularly k and its relation to the overall motion described.

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Hi guys,

I have some questions about this equation that my class were given before carrying out our practical for projectile motion (what we did was release a marble from the top of an inclined ramp and then when it hits the board which has a piece of carbon paper on it, a mark is left on a piece of paper under the carbon paper..)

Here's the equation:

y/x=[g(1+k^2)x]/2u^2 + k

k is a constant
g=gravitational acceleration
y=vertical distance (between bottom of ramp and top of board)
x=horizontal distance (between plumline and mark on paper)

Questions:

1. What is k really? (I read from some other sites that k is air resistance. Is that true?) From what equation was it derived from?
2. How do I get this equation?



What I've come up with so far..:

y=(u sin Ɵ)t + 1/2 gt^2

x= u cos Ɵ t

y/x= [(u sin Ɵ)t+1/2 gt^2]/(u cos Ɵ t)

simplified it.. and I ended up with

y/x= tan Ɵ + (gt^2)/(2u cos Ɵ t)

So yeah, I'm stuck here.

Help please?

Not sure whether I'm on the right track..
 
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2. Yes you are on the right track. You already found your k, its only proving the other part of the equation left. You might need some basic trigonometric identities to finish your proving.
 
How do I continue on? I've tried and I came up with something but I don't think I did it right.

By comparing both equations and using the y=mx+c concept

eq 1: y/x=[g(1+k^2)x]/(2u^2) + k

eq 2: y/x= tan Ɵ + (gt^2)/(2u cos Ɵ t)

So..

tan Ɵ= k

and

[g(1+k^2)]/(2u^2) = (gt^2)/(2u cos Ɵ t)

?

I don't think this is right at all, is it? I shouldn't comparing this:
[g(1+k^2)]/(2u^2) = (gt^2)/(2u cos Ɵ t)

because x is not present in my second equation.

ANYWAY

I just continued on

by comparing this

1+k^2 (from equation 1)

with

t (from equation 2).

Since k= tan Ɵ and t=1+k^2 (not sure this is right at all),

t= 1 + (tan Ɵ)^2


Can someone explain this^ to me? I'm not getting it. :frown:
 
Ok. Never mind. Solved!

Just posting this for anyone who's interested..

So..

x= u cos Ɵ t

Thus,

t=x/(u cos Ɵ)... eq1

y= u sin Ɵ t + (gt^2)/2... eq2

Substitute the t in eq2 with eq1, you'll get this:

y= x tan Ɵ + (x^2 g)/(2 u^2 cos^2 Ɵ)


y/x= tan Ɵ + [(x g)(1 + tan^2 Ɵ)]/ (2 u^2)


y/x= x (g(1 +tan ^2 Ɵ))/2u^2 +k

y/x= x[g(1+k^2)]/2u^2 +k

^^(shown)

tan Ɵ=k
 

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