Prove That Relationship Given is True for Transmission Lines Homework

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The discussion revolves around proving a relationship for transmission lines, specifically focusing on the input impedance of concatenated transmission line segments. The user attempts to derive the input impedance for a pair of transmission lines with characteristic impedances Z1 and Z2, suggesting that they can be treated as a single line. However, they express uncertainty about their calculations, particularly when adding more segments and maintaining consistent input impedance. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the user's struggle with the mathematical reasoning involved. Ultimately, the user seeks clarification on their approach and the correctness of their conclusions.
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Homework Statement


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I am having problems with the second part of the question - proving that the relationship given is true.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Firstly, consider a single pair of transmission lines with characteristic impedances ##Z_{1}## and ##Z_{2}##. My interpretation is that each of these segments have no load impedances on their own. We can say that this pair of transmission lines is equivalent to one transmission line whereby the load impedance is the input impedance as seen by the transmission line with characteristic impedance ##Z_{2}##. So the overall input impedance of this pair is:
$$Z_{in} = Z_1 \times \frac{Zcos(kl) + iZ_{1}sin(kl)}{Z_{1}cos(kl) + iZsin(kl)}$$ where ##Z = Z_{2}itan(kl)##.

Following this through we end up with:
$$Z_{in} = \frac{isin(kl)cos(kl)[Z_{1} + Z_{2}]}{cos^{2}(kl) - \frac{Z_2}{Z_1}sin^{2}(kl)}$$
I then thought about adding another pair of these transmission lines and enforcing the rule that the input impedance shouldn't change, but by my flawed reasoning would reduce this to adding a resistor in parallel whilst ensuring that the overall resistance did not change (which cannot be the case for something non-trivial).
 
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Sum Guy said:
$$Z_{in} = Z_1 \times \frac{Zcos(kl) + iZ_{1}sin(kl)}{Z_{1}cos(kl) + iZsin(kl)}$$ where ##Z = Z_{2}itan(kl)##..
This part is incorrect I think (always "I think" heh heh).
This problem is just very messy. Once you have Zin for the two-section concatenated line, add two more identical concatenated ones to get Zin for the 4-section line in the same manner, then force the ensuing Zin to be the same as for the 2-section line.
 
rude man said:
This part is incorrect I think (always "I think" heh heh).
This problem is just very messy. Once you have Zin for the two-section concatenated line, add two more identical concatenated ones to get Zin for the 4-section line in the same manner, then force the ensuing Zin to be the same as for the 2-section line.

My reasoning was as follows:
$$Z_{in 2} = Z_{2} \times \frac{Zcos(kl) + iZ_{2}sin(kl)}{Z_{2}cos(kl) + iZsin(kl)}$$ where ##Z = 0## (?)
Giving $$Z_{in 2} = Z_{2} \times \frac{iZ_{2}sin(kl)}{Z_{2}cos(kl)} = Z_{2}itan(kl)$$
What is wrong here?
 
Sum Guy said:
My reasoning was as follows:
$$Z_{in 2} = Z_{2} \times \frac{Zcos(kl) + iZ_{2}sin(kl)}{Z_{2}cos(kl) + iZsin(kl)}$$ where ##Z = 0## (?)
How about Z = ∞ instead?
 
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