Proving Poincare Algebra Using Differential Expression of Generator

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The discussion focuses on verifying the commutator expression for the Poincare group, specifically ##[J_{\mu\nu},P_{\rho}]=i(\eta_{\mu\rho}P_{\nu}-\eta_{\nu\rho}P_{\mu})## using differential expressions for the generators. The generator of translation is defined as ##P_{\rho}=-i\partial_{\rho}##, while the generator of rotation is ##J_{\mu\nu}=i(x_{\mu}\partial_{\nu}-x_{\nu}\partial_{\mu})##. A participant identifies an error in their calculation related to an extra negative sign, which is attributed to differing sign conventions for the generators. The correct interpretation aligns with the definitions provided in external resources.

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Homework Statement
Using differential expressions for the generator to verify the commutator expression in Poincare group
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Definition for the diffrential expressions of the generators are given below
Using differential expressions for the generator, verify the commutator expression for ##[J_{\mu\nu},P_{\rho}]=i(\eta_{\mu\rho}P_{\nu}-\eta_{\nu\rho}P_{\mu})## in Poincare group

Generator of translation: ##P_{\rho}=-i\partial_{\rho}##
Generator of rotation: ##J_{\mu\nu}=i(x_{\mu}\partial_{\nu}-x_{\nu}\partial{_\mu})##

Here is my working, I operate the commutator on a vector ##x^j##:
##[J_{\mu\nu},P_{\rho}]x^j##
##=(J_{\mu\nu}P_{\rho}-P_{\rho}J_{\mu\nu})x^j##
##=0-iP_{\rho}(x_{\mu}\partial_{\nu}-x_{\nu}\partial{_\mu})x^j##
##=-[(\partial_{\rho}x_{\mu})(\partial_{\nu}x^j)-(\partial_{\rho}x_{\nu})(\partial_{\mu}x^j)]##
##=-[\eta_{\rho\mu}(\partial_{\nu}x^j)-\eta_{\rho\nu}(\partial_{\mu}x^j)]##
##=-i(\eta_{\rho\mu}P_{\nu}x^j-\eta_{\rho\nu}P_{\mu}x^j)##
##=-i(\eta_{\rho\mu}P_{\nu}-\eta_{\rho\nu}P_{\mu})x^j##

My answer had one extra negative sign on it. Where did it go wrong?
 
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crime9894 said:
My answer had one extra negative sign on it. Where did it go wrong?
Your work looks correct to me. One has to be careful with sign conventions for ##P_\rho## and ##J_{\mu \nu}##. For example, https://www.physik.uni-bielefeld.de/~borghini/Teaching/Symmetries/02_02.pdf they get the answer that you were asked to get, but they define ##J_{\mu \nu}## with the opposite sign.
 
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And it should have the opposite sign, because ##J_{\mu \nu}=x_{\mu} p_{\nu}-x_{\nu} p_{\mu}## and then you just make the symbols operators.
 

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