Pulley problem with 2 masses and an incline

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving two masses connected by a pulley, with one mass on a flat surface and the other on an incline. The user seeks to find the acceleration and tension in the rope, using equations of motion and forces acting on both masses. They propose equations for the net forces acting on each mass, incorporating applied forces, tension, and friction. A mentor confirms the user's approach and clarifies the definitions of gravitational and frictional forces for the inclined mass. The conversation emphasizes the correct application of physics principles to solve the problem effectively.
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1. A mass on a flat surface is pulled with an angled force of 200N (as shown) and is connected by a massless rope/pulley to another mass below on an incline. Find the acceleration and Tension in the rope.

Homework Equations


Fnet = ma
Fg = mg
Ff = Mu x Fn

The Attempt at a Solution


Had a question like this except with different masses/angles on a quiz and want to make sure I did it right.

Would the equation for M1 be Fnet = Fappx - Ft - Ff

And for M2:
Fnet = Ft - Ff - Fgx

And then you turn Fnet into ma, combine the two equations to make Ft cancel out, then solve for a since acceleration is the same for both masses in a pulley system?

Here's a pic of the problem: (won't let me upload from my phone)

http://m.imgur.com/1nYJKh4

Mentor's Note: Here's a visible version:
Fig1.png
 
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Yes. This looks right.
 
Yashbhatt said:
Yes. This looks right.
Great! And for the normal force on M1 (to figure out friction), would it be M1g - 200sintheta ?
 
lilmulla said:
Great! And for the normal force on M1 (to figure out friction), would it be M1g - 200sintheta ?
Yes. But you have not said what you mean by Fgx and Ff for M2.
 
haruspex said:
Yes. But you have not said what you mean by Fgx and Ff for M2.
Oh, I meant Fgx is the x component of the force of gravity so (mgsin30) and Ff is = Fn which is equal to the y component of Fg so Ff = (0.2 x mgcos30)
 
lilmulla said:
1. A mass on a flat surface is pulled with an angled force of 200N (as shown) and is connected by a massless rope/pulley to another mass below on an incline. Find the acceleration and Tension in the rope.2. Homework Equations
Fnet = ma
Fg = mg
Ff = Mu x Fn

The Attempt at a Solution


Had a question like this except with different masses/angles on a quiz and want to make sure I did it right.

Would the equation for M1 be Fnet = Fappx - Ft - Ff

And for M2:
Fnet = Ft - Ff - Fgx

And then you turn Fnet into ma, combine the two equations to make Ft cancel out, then solve for a since acceleration is the same for both masses in a pulley system?

Here's a pic of the problem: (won't let me upload from my phone)



Mentor's Note: Here's a visible version:
View attachment 89713

Pls..how to solve this problem..
 
zxmahesh said:
Pls..how to solve this problem..
Per forum rules, please post an attempt.
 

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