Pulley system problem: 6 Pulleys and 1 Mass

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The discussion focuses on a pulley system involving a mass of 5 kg and the application of a force F. The analysis includes free body diagrams for the mass and the pulleys, leading to the conclusion that the tensions T1 and T2 are equal and both equal to 50N. The reasoning presented is confirmed as correct by other participants, highlighting the clarity of the explanation. The original poster expresses a desire for validation of their understanding despite lacking formal training in physics. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of clear reasoning in problem-solving.
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Homework Statement
Find force F
Relevant Equations
m_1 = 5kg, g = 10 m/s^2
The following system is at rest with a block of mass m1 = 5kg, and a force F that is applied to the end of a string attached to the pulley system. Let g, the acceleration due to gravity equal to 10 (for simple calculations).

pulley1.jpg

My analysis is as follows:

I'll first label the strings Tsub1 and Tsub2, and each pulley in red P1 and P2 (in red):

pulley2.jpg


From here I'll make 3 free body diagrams:

m1:
pulley3.jpg

$$\begin{array}{rcl} & T_{1} = gm_{1} = 50N \\ \end{array}$$

then P1:
pulley5.jpg


$$\begin{array}{rcl} &T_{x} = 2T_{1} \end{array}$$

then P2:

pulley6.jpg


$$\begin{array}{rcl} &T_{x} = 2T_{2} \end{array}$$

From these equations we have that

$$\begin{array}{rcl} &T_{1} = T_{2} \end{array}$$

and therefore

$$\begin{array}{rcl} &T_{1} = T_{2} = F = 50N \end{array}$$
 
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Sorry, I just wanted to know if my reasoning is correct. Im just a simple man trying to figure out stuff on my own without any formal training. In fact, I didn't even took physics in highschool, back in the day it wasn't required on my 3rd world country.
 
david3305 said:
Sorry, I just wanted to know if my reasoning is correct. Im just a simple man trying to figure out stuff on my own without any formal training. In fact, I didn't even took physics in highschool, back in the day it wasn't required on my 3rd world country.
If you do/don't have formal training, your free body diagrams look well done/reasoned to me.
 
erobz said:
If you do/don't have formal training, your free body diagrams look well done/reasoned to me.
Thanks, thats Khan Academy and a bunch of youtube videos for you.
 
david3305 said:
Sorry, I just wanted to know if my reasoning is correct. Im just a simple man trying to figure out stuff on my own without any formal training. In fact, I didn't even took physics in highschool, back in the day it wasn't required on my 3rd world country.
Your reasoning is correct. I wish that more of my students explained theirs as clearly as you did.
 
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