QM: Hamiltonians and energies of a system

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The discussion revolves around a quantum mechanics problem involving the Hamiltonian of a system expressed as H = p_1 + p_2. The original poster questions whether the eigenenergies of the system can be expressed in a specific additive form based on the Hamiltonian's structure.

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  • Participants explore the implications of a linear Hamiltonian on the form of eigenenergies, with some questioning whether a Hamiltonian should be quadratic in momentum. The original poster also considers the conditions under which the wavefunction can be separated.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the nature of Hamiltonians and eigenenergies. There is acknowledgment of the need for certain conditions regarding the wavefunction for the proposed form of eigenenergies to hold, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is a mention of potential constraints regarding the nature of the Hamiltonian (linear vs. nonlinear) and the separation of the wavefunction, which are under consideration but not resolved.

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Hi all.

Lets I have a system, whose Hamiltonian is given by H = p_1 + p_2, where pi is the momentum of i, where this i can be whatever, e.g. momentum in some particular direction. When the Hamiltonian is given on this form, do I know for certain that the eigenenergies of the system are on the form:

<br /> E_{m,n} = f(m) + g(n),<br />

where f and g are two functions that depend on respectively m and n? I.e. I am wondering if the eigenenergies of the system follow the same form as the Hamiltonian.

I hope you can help.Niles.
 
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Niles said:
Lets I have a system, whose Hamiltonian is given by H = p_1 + p_2,

Shouldn't your Hamiltonian be quadratic in the momenta? Or are you doing relativistic QM in natural units?

When the Hamiltonian is given on this form, do I know for certain that the eigenenergies of the system are on the form:

<br /> E_{m,n} = f(m) + g(n),<br />

Yes, because Hamiltonians are linear operators. (Perhaps I should say that this can be done whenever the Hamiltonian is linear. I'm not sure if you can cook up a nonlinear one).
 
Tom Mattson said:
Shouldn't your Hamiltonian be quadratic in the momenta?.

Yes, it should. Sorry for that.
Tom Mattson said:
Yes, because Hamiltonians are linear operators. (Perhaps I should say that this can be done whenever the Hamiltonian is linear ...

Hmm, can this be seen from the following?

<br /> H \psi = E\psi \quad \Rightarrow \quad H_1 \psi + H_2\psi = E_1\psi + E_2\psi = E\psi.<br />

Thanks for taking the time to reply.
 
Yes. So here E=E_1+E_2.
 
I've thought about this for the last couple of days. What I have found out is that I believe the above only works if the wavefunction satisfies <br /> \psi(x_1,x_2) = \psi_1(x_1) \psi_2(x_2), so it separates Schrödingers time-independent equation. Do you agree?
 

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