Qualitative plots of harmonic oscillator wave function

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The discussion revolves around the qualitative analysis of the wave function for the harmonic oscillator as derived from the one-dimensional time-independent Schrödinger equation. Participants explore the characteristics of the first energy eigenfunction and question the validity of alternative representations of this wave function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the wave function for the first energy eigenfunction cannot be negative and concave up, suggesting that mirroring the existing plot over the x-axis might be a valid representation.
  • Another participant notes that the wave function is complex and time-dependent, indicating that the representation could change with time or by applying a phase shift.
  • A later reply seeks confirmation on whether both the original and the mirrored wave functions could be considered reasonable representations of the first energy eigenfunction, suggesting a level of ambiguity in the interpretation.
  • One participant expresses agreement with the idea that both wave functions could be valid, though this remains an area of discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the mirrored wave function representation, with some suggesting it could be reasonable while others emphasize the importance of the original form. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the acceptance of both forms as valid representations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of wave functions and their dependence on time and phase, which may affect interpretations. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which different wave function representations are considered valid.

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For the harmonic oscillator, I'm trying to study qualitative plots of the wave function from the one-dimensional time independent Schrödinger equation:

\frac{d^2 \psi(x)}{dx^2} = [V(x) - E] \psi(x)

If you look at the attached image, you'll find a plot of the first energy eigenfunction for the HO. In the image, for x > 0, the the wave function is greater than 0 and the graph is concave down.

My question is: why can't the wave function be less than 0 and have the graph be concave up for this first eigenfunction? Put another way, why can't we simply mirror the attached image wave function over the x-axis and have that be a valid first energy eigenfunction of the HO?

Is it just a choice of initial conditions of psi and the derivative of psi and that we chose them to be positive?
 

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Remember that the wave function is complex and a function of time. You have only plotted one part of it (the real part perhaps) at one time. If you wait half a cycle, or if you multiply it by an arbitrary phase e^{i \pi} then it will look like what you suggested.
 
Hey great points, thanks so much.

Just to confirm:

If I were presented with the wavefunction in the attached image above as well as the one I described and was asked to pick which of the two was a possible wave function for the first energy eigenfunction of the harmonic oscillator, then both are reasonable, correct?
 
eprparadox said:
Hey great points, thanks so much.

Just to confirm:

If I were presented with the wavefunction in the attached image above as well as the one I described and was asked to pick which of the two was a possible wave function for the first energy eigenfunction of the harmonic oscillator, then both are reasonable, correct?

I think so, yes.
 

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