Question about speed of an electric current

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric current in insulated versus uninsulated copper wires, specifically focusing on whether the current will be identical at the end of each wire when subjected to the same voltage and power. The scope includes conceptual understanding and technical reasoning regarding current flow and signal propagation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Michael questions whether the current will be identical in insulated wire A and uninsulated wire B when sending an identical signal through both.
  • One participant suggests that the medium surrounding the wire affects the current, indicating that in a non-conductive medium, the current would be the same, while in a conductive medium, the uninsulated wire would have less current.
  • Another participant points out that the original question is misleading, stating that the situation pertains to the amount of current rather than its speed, and recommends looking into "electron drift velocity" for more information on current speed.
  • A further reply raises the possibility of considering high-frequency signals, suggesting that the impedance and losses may vary depending on the medium, which could affect both the speed and damping of the signal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between insulation, medium, and current behavior, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a consensus on the effects of insulation and medium on current flow and speed.

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There are limitations regarding assumptions about the medium in which the wires are placed, as well as the definitions of "current speed" and "signal," which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hello!

Supposed I had 2 identical copper wires, I'll call them A and B.

I insulate wire A with whatever the standard wire insulation is, and leave wire B alone (uninsulated).

I'll now send an identical signal (same voltage and power) through each wire. Will the current be identical at the end of each wire? Will it be weaker or slower?

Thanks!
-Michael
 
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That depends on the medium that the wire is in. If the medium is non conductive then it will be the same. But if the medium is conductive then the uninsulated wire will have less current.
 
The situation you pose has nothing to do with the speed of the current, only with the amount, so your subject line is misleading.

If you are interested in current "speed" then Google "electron drift velocity". You might be surprised.
 
As you talk about "signal", do you have in mind a high frequency regime, with wave packets propagating along the line?
In this case I think that the impedance of the line may depend on the medium. Probably that the losses too will depend on the medium.
So both speed and damping of the signal may be different.
 

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