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The discussion centers on achieving maximum overshoot in a system with a steady-state output of zero, leading to an infinite result when applying the maximum overshoot formula. Participants question the rationale behind designing a system for maximum overshoot and highlight the implications of such a design. The original poster seeks to determine the minimum damping ratio and natural frequency necessary for this configuration. The conversation emphasizes the complexities and potential issues associated with targeting infinite overshoot in system design. Understanding these parameters is crucial for effective control system performance.
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I want to get the maximum overshoot for a system whose steady state output is zero (the output is the deviation from an equilibrium point), substituting in the maximum overshoot formula |Ymax-Ys.s|/Ys.s will yield an infinity, so how to do it?

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The maximum overshoot you can achieve is infinity, what's the problem? Why are you designing a system for maximum overshoot?
 
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The maximum overshoot you can achieve is infinity, what's the problem? Why are you designing a system for maximum overshoot?

I need to get the minimum damping ratio and natural frequency
 
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