Radial Suction Fan Design & Equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a radial suction fan that draws air radially and expels it axially. Participants explore the equations and principles governing the airflow, blade angles, and RPM relationships, as well as alternative design approaches.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Puntilla seeks equations for determining the optimal blade angle and RPM for a fan that sucks air radially and blows it axially, noting that existing equations are primarily for radial blowing fans.
  • Some participants suggest that designing a radial inflow fan is complex and propose using an axial fan with ducts and inlet guide vanes to achieve radial airflow before axial expulsion.
  • Puntilla expresses interest in understanding the physics of air particles on the blades within a "neutral" airflow cage and requests literature to support this design consideration.
  • Another participant describes axial fans as compressors that can enhance air pressure, indicating a range of applications from low to high pressure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the fan design, with multiple competing views on whether to pursue a radial inflow fan or adapt an axial fan with additional components.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in existing equations for radial inflow fans and the need for further exploration of airflow dynamics and design considerations.

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Hi, I've been considering the design of a fan that sucks air radially and blows axially to resolve a technical problem of a machine. I've looked around for the equations governing the air particles and the angle of the radial blades (angle between a flat blade and a radial line) of the fans, but those equations are mostly developed for radial blowing fans and used to determine the pressure and velocity of air coming OUT radially. I would like to find a formula to determine what blade angle and RPM combination would cause air to be sucked radially and blown axially. Also, how to link constant RPM to the acceleration, velocity and displacement of a particle on the surface of a blade. Any help with this would be welcome... I tried to derive the equations based on free body diagrams, but I guess my physics are a bit rusty!

Thanks in advance for your time and help.

Regards,

Puntilla
 
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A radial inflow fan is a very difficult thing to design .

An easier solution would be to use an axial fan and use ducts and inlet guide vanes to allow air to enter fan housing radially before passing through fan axially .
 
Hi Nidum, thanks a lot for your reply. I had a similar thought and already conceptualized something along those lines (see image below). As you can see, I've attached the radial fan (on the right) to a cage with "hopefully" neutral air flow. So along the lines of what my original question was, I would like to understand the physics of an air particle resting on one of the blades of the "neutral" airflow cage, so I can make design it with either neutral or slight radial inflow. Do you know of any literature to help me here?
 

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An Axial fan is basically a kind of compressor that can enhance the air pressure flowing through it. The range of axial flow fans is very wide and it may vary from a low or medium pressure fans to high pressure fans.
 

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