Reaction forces due to imbalance of a shaft

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The discussion focuses on calculating the x- and y-components of the bearing forces on a shaft rotating about the z-axis with two particles of mass m. The user attempts to apply the moment equations, noting that the angular velocity components in the x and y directions are zero. There is confusion regarding the calculation of the inertia terms, particularly whether to consider only forces acting perpendicular to the y-axis and the validity of setting Ixz to zero. The user seeks clarification on their approach and the correct setup for the integral needed to determine Iyz. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accurately establishing the forces and moments acting on the system.
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Homework Statement



The shaft carries two particles of mass m, and rotates about the z-axis with the constant angular velocity ##\omega##. Determine the x- and y-component of the bearing due to imbalance.
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The Attempt at a Solution



Rotation only around the ##z-##axis so ##\omega _{x}=\omega _{y}=0## and ##\boldsymbol{\omega }=\omega \boldsymbol{\hat{k}}##. Since ##\dot{\omega}=0## we have:
##\left\{\begin{matrix}
\sum M_{x}=I_{yz}\omega^2\\ \sum M_{y}=-I_{xz}\omega^2
\\

\end{matrix}\right.##
I have trouble now. Is it correct that for ##M_{y}##, only forces acting perpendicular to y-axis that should be accounted for? We also see that the intersection of points of the ##xz-##plane and the two sphere's are none so that means that ##I_{xz}=0##(Is this even correct??). And ##I_{yz}=\overline{I}_{yz}+md_{y}d_{z}=0+mR\frac{L}{3}-mR\frac{2L}{3}##
 
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zeralda21 said:

Homework Statement



The shaft carries two particles of mass m, and rotates about the z-axis with the constant angular velocity ##\omega##. Determine the x- and y-component of the bearing due to imbalance.

[IMG ]http://i.imgur.com/QLfdH8V.jpg[/PLAIN]

The Attempt at a Solution



Rotation only around the ##z-##axis so ##\omega _{x}=\omega _{y}=0## and ##\boldsymbol{\omega }=\omega \boldsymbol{\hat{k}}##. Since ##\dot{\omega}=0## we have:
##\left\{\begin{matrix}
\sum M_{x}=I_{yz}\omega^2\\ \sum M_{y}=-I_{xz}\omega^2
\\

\end{matrix}\right.##

I have trouble now. Is it correct that for ##M_{y}##, only forces acting perpendicular to y-axis that should be accounted for? We also see that the intersection of points of the ##xz-##plane and the two sphere's are none so that means that ##I_{xz}=0##(Is this even correct??). And ##I_{yz}=\overline{I}_{yz}+md_{y}d_{z}=0+mR\frac{L}{3}-mR\frac{2L}{3}##
I recommend starting with a Free Body Diagram of the shaft, considering the two particle masses to be external to the shaft.
 
Alright. Did you read my attempt? Would like to know if I am all wrong or somehow correct.

The FBD contains the two particles, each with a gravitational force ##mg## acting in negative ##x##. We have a parallel-plane motion with constant rotation in ##z-##axis, hence the moment equations:

##\left\{\begin{matrix}
\sum M_{x}=I_{yz}\omega^2\\ \sum M_{y}=-I_{xz}\omega^2
\\

\end{matrix}\right.##

For the moment equation about##y-##axis we need to determine ##I_{yz}##.

##I_{yz}=\int yz {\mathrm{d} m}## and from here I don't know how to proceed and establish the integral.

Since I don't know how to set up the integral I could bypass that by using

##I_{yz}=\overline{I}_{yz}+md_{y}d_{z}## for each particle(or is it only for rigid bodies?), hence

##I_{yz}=0+mR\frac{L}{3}## for particle 1 and ##I_{yz}=0+m(-R)\frac{2L}{3}## for the second.
 
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