Recommend me an introductory physics textbook that is more theoretical?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around recommendations for an introductory physics textbook that matches the theoretical rigor of Spivak's Calculus. Participants explore various texts, their levels of difficulty, and suitability for beginners.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests Kleppner and Kolenkow as a suitable introductory text.
  • Another participant mentions Fetter and Walecka but notes it is more appropriate for graduate-level study.
  • Alternatives to standard introductory texts are proposed, including Moore, Chabay & Sherwood, Rex & Jackson, and Alonso & Finn.
  • A participant expresses concern that the second edition of Alonso & Finn may have been diluted compared to the first edition, suggesting the first edition is preferable if available.
  • James C. Maxwell's "Matter and Motion" is recommended as a valuable resource, available in the public domain.
  • Edward Purcell is mentioned for electromagnetism recommendations.
  • Landau and Lifshitz's "Course of Theoretical Physics" is suggested for those seeking a more advanced text, though another participant warns it is not suitable for beginners.
  • One participant notes that a recently released book may be too advanced for beginners but could still contain interesting content for someone familiar with Spivak's Calculus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the suitability of various texts, with some recommending specific books while others caution against their complexity for beginners. No consensus is reached on a single recommended text.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the varying levels of difficulty among the suggested texts, indicating that some may not be appropriate for beginners despite their theoretical depth.

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Hi there,

I've started working through Spivak Calculus, and was wondering if there is an introductory physics textbook that is of similar level of difficulty?

I have Physics for Scientists and Engineers by Knight but it's a little slow.

Thanks.
 
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Second vote for Kleppner...
However, Fetter & Walecka is not an introductory physics text... It's more like a graduate-level text.

Interesting alternatives to the standard intro texts:

Moore, http://www.physics.pomona.edu/sixideas/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0072291524/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Chabay & Sherwood, http://matterandinteractions.org/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0471354910/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Rex & Jackson, http://www.math.ups.edu/~martinj/calcphys/calcphys.html
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201473968/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Alonso & Finn,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201565188/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
robphy said:
Interesting alternatives to the standard intro texts:

Alonso & Finn,
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201565188/?tag=pfamazon01-20

According to the review by Peltio the second editions ('revised' edition) has been watered down from the first, as often happens with great textbooks. I have the first edition of Alonso & Finn and I agree it is a very good book. I have not seen the 2nd edition but I would be surprised if it has indeed been watered down as Peltio says, in which case it is probably like all the other books out there.

If you can find a cheap copy of the 1st edition I say buy it, otherwise don't bother with this new edition ('revised' as they call it). I see all the 1st edition copies are hideously expensive, so maybe look elsewhere.
 
Possibly interesting reading:
http://www.math.uga.edu/~shifrin/Spivak_physics.pdf
 
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Matter and Motion by James C. Maxwell. This really is one of the best books available. It is is in public domain (obviously) so you can probably download/view it free somewhere. If you prefer print, Dover sells it for like $10.
 
Thanks for all the recommendations I will check them out.
 
For electromagnetism, I recommend Edward Purcell.
 
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Ya, Landau and Lifgarbagez is a graduate level book, and even they find it difficult! Definitely not for beginners. If you want a graduate level, or advanced undergrad, book try Goldstein. But that's still a bad idea for a beginner.
 
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qspeechc said:
The book is already out:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0914098322/?tag=pfamazon01-20

Reading the reviews it sounds much too advanced for a beginner.

Yes, I bought it when it came out.
Although it is probably too advanced for a beginner,
[parts of] it might be interesting for the OP since Spivak's Calculus was mentioned.
 

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