Related Rates involving Cosine Law

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This discussion focuses on solving a related rates problem using the Cosine Law and various geometric formulas. The participant initially struggled with identifying the correct formulas and labeling variables, ultimately using the Length of Arc formula (L = rθ) and differentiating it to find rates of change. A suggestion was made to visualize the problem by drawing a circle and labeling key points, which is essential for setting up the equation for time (T) taken to traverse the path. The discussion emphasizes the importance of diagramming and understanding the problem context before applying mathematical formulas.

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I've never done a problem of this sort and it's proving to be much more difficult compared to the other problems I have had assigned to me.
I'm not entirely sure which formulas to use but I've been playing with the following:
Length of Arc = r\theta
A = \pir^2
C = \pid = 2\pir
A of Sector= 1/2(\theta-Sin\theta)r^2
And the Cosine Law

Being honest, I'm a little confused by the question. I'm not entirely sure if I labelled my variables correctly. But I made a diagram and this is what I did so far:

- L = r\theta
So: dL/dt = dr/dt x d\theta/dt
I assumed the walking speed on the surface was dL/dt. Therefore, dL/dt = 4.
I assumed d\theta/dt = 4 m/s x 2\pi rad/m = 8.
Therefore, I was able to calculate that dr/dt = 1/2.

I differentiated the cosine formula just to give myself a general idea of what I had to work with, but with two variable side lengths and an unknown \theta I was at a loss.

Note: After quite a bit of searching, this was the closest value I found to help me out.

But in this example, a value for theta is given and two side lengths are known.

I think my main problem may be understanding the question. If someone could clarify it and give me some pointers that would be great!

Thanks!
 

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For problem: See Attachment

I've never done a problem of this sort and it's proving to be much more difficult compared to the other problems I have had assigned to me.
I'm not entirely sure which formulas to use but I've been playing with the following:
Length of Arc = r\theta
A = \pir^2
C = \pid = 2\pir
A of Sector= 1/2(\theta-Sin\theta)r^2
And the Cosine Law

It is pretty pointless just to write down formulas willy-nilly. You need to draw a picture and figure out a formula for what you are trying to maximize or minimize. And this problem has nothing to do with areas.

Being honest, I'm a little confused by the question. I'm not entirely sure if I labelled my variables correctly. But I made a diagram and this is what I did so far:

- L = r\theta
So: dL/dt = dr/dt x d\theta/dt
I assumed the walking speed on the surface was dL/dt. Therefore, dL/dt = 4.
I assumed d\theta/dt = 4 m/s x 2\pi rad/m = 8.
Therefore, I was able to calculate that dr/dt = 1/2.

I differentiated the cosine formula just to give myself a general idea of what I had to work with, but with two variable side lengths and an unknown \theta I was at a loss.

Thanks!

Without seeing your diagram, how are we supposed to follow that? And given that the radius of the circle is 20, clearly finding dr/dt = 1/2 is nonsense. Here's what I suggest you do:

1. Draw a circle at the origin with A at (20,0) and B at (-20,0). Label a point on the upper circumference as C with polar angle ##\theta##. Label the arc from A to C as ##s## and the straight line from C to B as ##l##. So the runner/swimmer is going to run around the circle from A to the unknown point C along ##s##, then swim directly from C to B along ##l##.

2. Write an equation for the time ##T## it takes for him to run/swim that path. Only then are you ready to differentiate with respect to time ##t## and minimize ##T##.
 

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