Relationship between magnetic field lines and magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical relationship between magnetic field lines and the magnetic field strength (B). Participants are exploring how field line density correlates with magnetic field magnitude, particularly in the context of Gauss' law and the representation of magnetic fields in different dimensions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are considering various mathematical demonstrations of the relationship between field line density and magnetic field strength. Some are questioning the adequacy of using the flux equation, while others are exploring the implications of Gauss' law on field lines. There is also a discussion on the dimensionality of models and how they affect the understanding of magnetic fields.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights and posing questions about the mathematical definitions and implications of field lines and magnetic fields. Some have suggested starting with the definition of a vector field line, while others are looking for clarification on how to demonstrate that individual field lines obey Gauss' law.

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There are references to different unit systems, such as the cgs system, which may influence participants' perspectives and approaches to the problem. Additionally, some participants express uncertainty about the adequacy of their proposed methods and seek further commentary from others.

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Homework Statement
Show that the density of magnetic field lines can be used as a measure of the size of the magnetic field.
Relevant Equations
psi = BAcos(theta)
As stated in the problem, I want to demonstrate mathematically that field line density is directly related to the magnitude of B. How would I be able to do this, other than simply using the flux equation and showing that for a higher flux in the same area, the magnetic field must be rise accordingly. Or would this be sufficient?
 
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The density of flux lines in 3 dimensions is proportional to the magnetic field strength. Drawings that are two dimensional don't show the inverse square law properly that occurs from a magnetic pole, etc. I would need to think about exactly why a 3 dimensional model gives exactly what is needed for the conservation of flux, etc, but in any case it does.

Edit: I think it probably can be demonstrated by saying that the flux lines into any box are the same as the flux lines out of the box=if they go in, they must emerge, and by Gauss' law, they then obey ## \nabla \cdot B=0 ##, just like the magnetic field, but maybe someone else can comment on this.
 
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Charles Link said:
Edit: I think it probably can be demonstrated by saying that the flux lines into any box are the same as the flux lines out of the box=if they go in, they must emerge, and by Gauss' law, they then obey ## \nabla \cdot B=0 ##, just like the magnetic field, but maybe someone else can comment on this.
How can we show that the individual field lines obey Gauss' law? How would this be different from showing that Gauss' law is satisfied for the field?
 
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As stated in the problem, I want to demonstrate mathematically that field line density is directly related to the magnitude of B. How would I be able to do this, other than simply using the flux equation and showing that for a higher flux in the same area, the magnetic field must be rise accordingly. Or would this be sufficient?
It may help to start with the definition of a vector field line. If parametric curve ##\vec x(s)## is a field line, it obeys
$$\vec x'(s) = \vec B(\vec x).$$ Perhaps someone else can explain how to define field line density mathematically.
 
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I learnt physics using the centimetre-gram-second (cgs) system of units, where Gauss specified that 4 pi lines of force originate from a unit magnetic pole, and the magnetic flux density is expressed in lines per cm2. So I find it hard to put my heart into the question!
 

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