Relative Velocity of Ball on Moving Board

In summary, the conversation discusses the problem of finding the velocity of a ball relative to the floor, given its velocity and the velocity of the board it is rolling on. The conversation mentions using the equation V_bf = V_bx + V_xf to solve the problem. However, the person attempting the problem is unsure of where they went wrong and asks for clarification.
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Homework Statement


A ball rolls with a velocity of 14 mm/s [W] on a board that is being pulled [E 60o N] at 20.0 mm/s. What is the velocity of the ball relative to the floor?

b = ball
x = board
f = floor

Homework Equations


V_bf = V_bx + V_xf

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to work through this question by drawing it on a Cartesian grid and by drawing out the vectors. I used trigonometry on the triangle to figure out the component of V_xf horizontally, and then plugging V_xf into the V_bf = V_bx + V_xf equation. The answer I got was 4 mm/s W, but is was incorrect. I am not sure where I went wrong.
 
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Dffgsadf said:
I am not sure where I went wrong.
Strangely, neither am I. Why might that be?
 
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Dffgsadf said:

Homework Statement


A ball rolls with a velocity of 14 mm/s [W] on a board that is being pulled [E 60o N] at 20.0 mm/s. What is the velocity of the ball relative to the floor?

b = ball
x = board
f = floor

Homework Equations


V_bf = V_bx + V_xf

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to work through this question by drawing it on a Cartesian grid and by drawing out the vectors. I used trigonometry on the triangle to figure out the component of V_xf horizontally, and then plugging V_xf into the V_bf = V_bx + V_xf equation. The answer I got was 4 mm/s W, but is was incorrect. I am not sure where I went wrong.
The velocity vector has both westward and northward components.
Do you mean 60° East of North as the direction of velocity of the board?
 
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60 degrees east of north would be written as N60E. E60N is not a standard notation ("standard notation" goes from N or S first) but I would interpret it as "60 degrees north of east" which would be the same as "30 degrees east of north" or N30E. If you want someone to explain "what you did wrong", you will have to tell us what you did!
 

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