Relative velocity of plane with vectors

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed and heading of a plane relative to the ground, given its speed and direction with respect to the air and the wind's speed. The plane is traveling 30° south of due west at 130 m/s, while the wind is moving north at 30 m/s. Participants suggest using a coordinate system to break down the vectors into components, emphasizing the importance of trigonometry and geometry in solving the problem. There is a consensus that the next step involves setting up the plane's vector and combining it with the wind vector to determine the resultant speed and heading. Understanding vector addition is crucial for finding the plane's speed relative to the ground.
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Homework Statement



The problem is worded thus:

You are on an airplane traveling 30° south of due west at 130 m/s with respect to the air. The air is moving with a speed 30 m/s with respect to the ground due north.

(a) What is the speed of the plane with respect to the ground?

(b) What is the heading of the plane with respect to the ground? (Let 0° represent due north, 90° represents due east).

Homework Equations



No formulas given

The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted to solve the problem by putting it on a N-E coordinate plane, with two vectors. (North as y, east as x).

For wind:
\vec{v} = 0\hat{i} + 30\hat{\jmath}
For the plane, I do not know how to set up a vector. My plan was to do so, and then find its magnitude so that I can find the plane's speed relative to the ground. 130 m/s is given as the plane's speed relative to the air, but I need to figure out how to relate that to the ground. Any ideas?

For part b, I think I need to know how to do "a" first.
 
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Yae Miteo said:

Homework Statement



The problem is worded thus:

You are on an airplane traveling 30° south of due west at 130 m/s with respect to the air. The air is moving with a speed 30 m/s with respect to the ground due north.

(a) What is the speed of the plane with respect to the ground?

(b) What is the heading of the plane with respect to the ground? (Let 0° represent due north, 90° represents due east).

Homework Equations



No formulas given

The Attempt at a Solution



I attempted to solve the problem by putting it on a N-E coordinate plane, with two vectors. (North as y, east as x).

For wind:
\vec{v} = 0\hat{i} + 30\hat{\jmath}
For the plane, I do not know how to set up a vector. My plan was to do so, and then find its magnitude so that I can find the plane's speed relative to the ground. 130 m/s is given as the plane's speed relative to the air, but I need to figure out how to relate that to the ground. Any ideas?

For part b, I think I need to know how to do "a" first.

Have you tried breaking up the given plane vector into components?
 
Yae Miteo said:
No formulas given
... in the problem statement - but that does not mean there are no relevant equations.

I attempted to solve the problem by putting it on a N-E coordinate plane, with two vectors. (North as y, east as x).
... that's a decent idea.

For wind:
\vec{v} = 0\hat{i} + 30\hat{\jmath}
Fair enough.

For the plane, I do not know how to set up a vector.
... use trigonometry.

My plan was to do so, and then find its magnitude so that I can find the plane's speed relative to the ground. 130 m/s is given as the plane's speed relative to the air, but I need to figure out how to relate that to the ground. Any ideas?
You could also just use your knowledge of geometry - vectors are arrows pointing in some direction with some length - so sketch them out.
You will need to either add or subtract the vectors to get the result you need.
 
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