Relative velocity question from giancoli physics

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The discussion revolves around solving a relative velocity problem involving an airplane's airspeed and wind speed. The initial approach used Pythagorean theory to find the components of velocity, but the solution was incorrect because it did not account for the actual triangle formed by the velocities. Instead, the correct method involves using the sine law to determine the angle theta, as the situation does not create a right triangle. A participant pointed out that the initial equation should reference the ground speed (V_pg) instead of airspeed (V_pa). Ultimately, the sine law is necessary for accurately solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


I attached the picture on the bottom (correction on the picture 30 degrees ---> 35 degrees sorry about that)
Vpa: 600 km/h
Vag:100 km/h

and the question is to find the angle theta

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried using Pythagorean theory by setting x and y

(V_pa)^2 =y^2 + x^2

set y = x/ (tan 35)

so then I solved x = 344.1458617 Km/h

and since Sin/theta = (V_ag + x)/V_pa

/theta = 47.75271609

sorry for ignoring the scientific notation,
I am not used to it :(

um anyways my answer was wrong
because the "solution" chose to use the 'sine law'
and that gives the right answer but I wanted to know what I did wrong to get the wrong answermuch appreciated
 
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hamsterpower7 said:

Homework Statement


I attached the picture on the bottom (correction on the picture 30 degrees ---> 35 degrees sorry about that)
Vpa: 600 km/h
Vag:100 km/h

and the question is to find the angle theta

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried using Pythagorean theory by setting x and y

(V_pa)^2 =y^2 + x^2

set y = x/ (tan 35)

so then I solved x = 344.1458617 Km/h

and since Sin/theta = (V_ag + x)/V_pa

/theta = 47.75271609

sorry for ignoring the scientific notation,
I am not used to it :(

um anyways my answer was wrong
because the "solution" chose to use the 'sine law'
and that gives the right answer but I wanted to know what I did wrong to get the wrong answer


much appreciated

Your diagram shows right angled triangles. The real situation may not be right angled, which would necessitate use of sin rule or cos rule
 
Okay I will post the question up to see if it wasn't a right angle

An airplane, whose air speed is 600km/h, is supposed to fly in a straight path 35 degrees north of east
but a steady 100km/h wind is blowing from the north
in what direction shuold the plane head?
 
hamsterpower7 said:

Homework Statement


I attached the picture on the bottom (correction on the picture 30 degrees ---> 35 degrees sorry about that)
Vpa: 600 km/h
Vag:100 km/h

and the question is to find the angle theta

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried using Pythagorean theory by setting x and y

(V_pa)^2 =y^2 + x^2

set y = x/ (tan 35)

so then I solved x = 344.1458617 Km/h

and since Sin/theta = (V_ag + x)/V_pa

/theta = 47.75271609

sorry for ignoring the scientific notation,
I am not used to it :(

um anyways my answer was wrong
because the "solution" chose to use the 'sine law'
and that gives the right answer but I wanted to know what I did wrong to get the wrong answer


much appreciated

[Responding to your original so I can copy your symbols]

Your first line was incorrect

(V_pa)^2 =y^2 + x^2

It should read

(V_pg)^2 =y^2 + x^2

and since you don't know (V_pg) it doesn't get you anywhere.

You have to use the sine rule on the triangle including theta to solve
 
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