Relativistic Momentum Invariance in Perpendicular Boosts

In summary, the conversation discusses a derivation of the formula for relativistic momentum by considering a car crashing into a wall from two different inertial frames. The argument is that since both observers see the same damage done to the wall and car, the component of the car's momentum towards the wall must be the same in both systems. This leads to the introduction of the Lorentz factor in the formula for relativistic momentum. However, there is a question about whether this reasoning is satisfactory and if there is a better argument for why the component of momentum should be invariant for Lorentz boosts perpendicular to that component. The response is that the momentum is the spatial part of the 4-momentum and transforms in the same way as any other
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I've found a derivation of the formula for the relativistic momentum where they considered a car crashing into a wall in the system of the car and in an inertial system that moves parallel to the wall (and therefore perpendicularly to the movement of the car). They argue that since both observers see the same damage done to wall and car, the component of the car's momentum towards the wall needs to be the same in both systems. Since the car moves slower seen from the parallel moving system (because of time dilation), the Lorentz factor needs to be introduced in the formula for relativistic momentum.

I don't really find this reasoning (same damage implies same component of momentum towards the wall) satisfactory. At this point, everything known about collisions is non-relativistic. Is there a better argument why a component of momentum should be invariant for Lorentz boosts perpendicular to that component?
 
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The momentum is the spatial part of the 4-momentum. This is a 4-vector and transforms in the same way as any other 4-vector, i.e., not changing the orthogonal components.
 
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Your statement already assumes a definition of relativistic momentum, whereas my question is about why this definition is a suitable replacement for the Newtonian momentum.
 
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You require that momentum conservation in one inertial frame should also imply momentum conservation in other frames. This is essentially the same requirement as for classical momentum, but in that case for Galilei transformations and not Lorentz transformations.
 
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Related to Relativistic Momentum Invariance in Perpendicular Boosts

1. What is relativistic momentum invariance in perpendicular boosts?

Relativistic momentum invariance in perpendicular boosts refers to the principle that the momentum of an object in a perpendicular direction remains the same regardless of the frame of reference in which it is observed. This is a fundamental concept in Einstein's theory of special relativity.

2. How does relativistic momentum invariance differ from classical momentum?

Unlike classical momentum, which only takes into account an object's mass and velocity, relativistic momentum invariance also considers the object's energy and the speed of light. This is necessary to accurately describe the behavior of objects traveling at high speeds.

3. Why is relativistic momentum invariance important?

Relativistic momentum invariance is important because it allows us to accurately describe and predict the behavior of objects moving at high speeds, such as particles in particle accelerators or spacecrafts traveling near the speed of light. Without this concept, our understanding of the universe would be incomplete.

4. How is relativistic momentum invariance in perpendicular boosts mathematically represented?

In mathematical terms, relativistic momentum invariance in perpendicular boosts is represented by the equation p=mv/√(1-(v^2/c^2)), where p is the momentum, m is the mass, v is the velocity, and c is the speed of light.

5. Can relativistic momentum invariance be observed in everyday life?

While the effects of relativistic momentum invariance are not noticeable in everyday life, they can be observed and measured in experiments involving high-speed particles. This principle is also used in technologies such as GPS, which rely on the accuracy of relativistic calculations to function properly.

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