Rigid Body Motion: Sphere on Inclined Plane

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the motion of a sphere on an inclined plane, given its mass, radius, initial velocity, and friction coefficient. Participants emphasize the importance of determining whether the sphere is rolling without slipping or skidding, which affects the equations used. The conservation of energy and work done by friction are central to deriving the motion equations, leading to a differential equation that describes the sphere's position over time. A suggestion is made to simplify the analysis by expressing the moment of inertia in terms of mass and radius and to explore the rolling condition based on the friction coefficient. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the need for further exploration of the derived equations.
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Homework Statement



A sphere of mass M and radius R it`s given a velocity Vo on the base of a inclined plane (theta being the angle) and friction coefficient mu (you may assume that static and kinetic friction are equal) Find the position of the ball as a function of time

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Hi hellsnake! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and a mu: µ :wink:)

(and btw, is the sphere skidding, or is it rolling without slipping?)

Use work done and conservation of energy …

what do you get? :smile:
 
It doesn'st tell you if it's slipping or not you have to see that. By the way I forgot you have to study the two cases when µ≤ 2/7 tan θ and µ≥ 2/7 tan θ. Without the equal. And when I do conservation of energy and work done by friction I get this differential equation
(1/2)M.(Vcm)² + (1/2)Icm.w² + MgH - (1/2)MVo² = -Ffr X(t)
But Vcm= (d/dt)X(t) and H=X(t)sin θ . Then I get that

(1/2)M.(d/dt)X(t))² + (1/2)Icm.w² + MgX(t)sin θ - (1/2)MVo² = -Ffr X(t)

Where:
M= mass of the sphere
Vcm= It's the velocity of the center of the mass
Icm= It's the moment or inertia with an axis that pass through the center oh the sphere
w= It's the angular velocity
H= It's how high is the sphere measure from the floor
Vo= It's the initial velocity
Ffr= It's the force that the frcition does
X(t)= It'sthe position of the ball measure from the point where it start his motion. And I choose the X axis parallel to the motion

So if I read the equation I get that the energy on a arbitrary point of the sphere is equal to
(1/2)M.(Vcm)² + (1/2)Icm.w² + MgH. Now this minus the energy in the initial moment(the sphere doesn't have rotational energy here) (1/2)MVo² . All of this is equal to the work done by friction -Ffr X(t)

I think that I have to do another thing because this differential equation It's too hard for this course I think. However if you have the solution for this equation I appreciate it too

Thanks a lot in advance
 
Hi hellsnake! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)

You can simplify it slightly by writing Icm in terms of M and R, and writing Ffr = µMg.

After that, you need a relation between V and ω … try the easier, rolling-without-slipping case first: V = Rω. :wink:

(and after that, you'll need to find the condition on µ for rolling … presumably it's going to be µ ≥ 2/7 tanθ ! :rolleyes:)
 
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