Rotating meterstick problem w/ weights.

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The problem involves a meter stick with identical particles placed at specific positions, rotating about a pivot. The inquiry focuses on determining the angular speed of the meter stick as it swings through its lowest position, utilizing concepts from rotational motion and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods, including simultaneous equations and the parallel axis theorem, to analyze the problem. There is mention of potential difficulties in arriving at a solution. Some participants suggest considering conservation of energy as an alternative approach.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and questioning the applicability of energy conservation to the problem. There is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet, but the idea of using energy conservation is being considered as a viable direction.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the effectiveness of their initial approaches and the relevance of certain equations in the context of the problem. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the application of energy principles to rotating bodies.

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Homework Statement


Identical particles are placed at the 50-cm and 80-cm marks on a meter stick of negligible mass. This rigid body is then mounted so as to rotate about a pivot at the 0-cm mark on the meter stick. If this body is released from rest in a horizontal position, what is the angular speed of the meter stick as it swings through it's lowest position?

Homework Equations


Equations of rotational motion
torque = Fdsin(theta)
torque = I (alpha)
v = rw
(alpha) = A_c / r

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the different lengths in simultaneous equations to try and find the different omegas and add them together...but my answer had nothing to do with the question...

I then tried using parallel axis theorem and tried to plug in T = I(alpha) and such to figure out the real torque involved to find alpha and find w finally., and that produced no results...
 
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jrrodri7 said:

Homework Statement


Identical particles are placed at the 50-cm and 80-cm marks on a meter stick of negligible mass. This rigid body is then mounted so as to rotate about a pivot at the 0-cm mark on the meter stick. If this body is released from rest in a horizontal position, what is the angular speed of the meter stick as it swings through it's lowest position?

Homework Equations


Equations of rotational motion
torque = Fdsin(theta)
torque = I (alpha)
v = rw
(alpha) = A_c / r

The Attempt at a Solution


I used the different lengths in simultaneous equations to try and find the different omegas and add them together...but my answer had nothing to do with the question...

I then tried using parallel axis theorem and tried to plug in T = I(alpha) and such to figure out the real torque involved to find alpha and find w finally., and that produced no results...
Perhaps this problem would be better approached using conservation of energy.
 
conservation of rotating object energy?hmmmm okay.
 
jrrodri7 said:
conservation of rotating object energy?hmmmm okay.
Yes. You don't think that one can apply conservation of energy to rotating rigid bodies? Consider the potential and kinetic energy of the meter stick both when it is horizontal and vertical.
 
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