Rotational Kinematics - Cylinder down a slope.

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of a non-uniform cylinder rolling down a slope, specifically focusing on rotational kinematics and the forces acting on the cylinder as it moves down a 20° incline.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations related to the motion of the cylinder, including the relationship between torque, friction, and acceleration. Questions arise regarding the role of friction in generating torque and whether the gravitational force can be used to express torque.

Discussion Status

Some participants have attempted to derive relationships between the forces and torques acting on the cylinder, while others are questioning the assumptions made about the forces involved. There is an ongoing exploration of the equations that govern the motion, with no clear consensus reached on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of rotational kinematics and the specific conditions of the problem, including the non-uniform nature of the cylinder and the requirement for it to roll without slipping.

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Homework Statement



A certain non-uniform but cylindrically symmetric cylinder has mass 9 kg, radius 1.2 m, and moment of inertia about the center of mass 7.6 kg m2. It rolls without slipping down a rough 20° incline.

What is the acceleration of the cylinder's center-of-mass?


Homework Equations



kinematics and the rotational equivalents

The Attempt at a Solution



The hints I was given was to find/use 3 equations. I believe the equations I found are wrong. I seem to have some difficulty with kinematics, and now especially this rotational kinematics.

I found:
m*g*sin(20) - F(friction) = m*a
T(orque) = I * alpha
a = alpha * r

Any help to whether these are the useful equations, and how I may go about using these? Thx. :)
 
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What is the relationship between torque on the cylinder and the frictional force at the circumference?
 
Are they the same?

b/c the frictional force is a force not coming out from the CM; therefore it helps it spin? I believe it is the only other force, so they must be the same?
 
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I also tried using the gravitational force as the Torque.
I used m*g*sin(20)=I*alpha
m*g*sin(20)/I=alpha and alpha*R = a
so... m*g*sin(20)*R/I=a,
but this didn't work either.

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I just solved this problem.
 
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Use these equations:
mgsin(20) - F(friction) = ma
I(alpha) = F(friction)*r
a=(alpha)*r

The only force that applies a torque is friction, because the normal force and gravity both act on the center of mass.
 

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