Second law of thermodynamics - what does it actually mean?

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The discussion centers on the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which states that in a closed system, the availability of energy decreases over time as the system approaches thermodynamic equilibrium. While energy is conserved and remains present, it becomes less useful for doing work as temperature differences equalize. The key takeaway is that although energy is not lost, its ability to perform work diminishes, leading to a state where no energy can be extracted once equilibrium is reached. This clarification addresses the confusion regarding the interpretation of energy in relation to the 2nd law.
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I read in the paper that the 2nd law of thermodynamics says energy is constantly decreasing in a closed system.

Is that true? I learned the law in my first year of college but I can't remember its implications. Anyway, I can't find a straight 'true' or 'false' answer anywhere, and it's bothering me because I think the paper is wrong :)

Can anyone explain?
 
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jumbogala said:
the 2nd law of thermodynamics says available energy is constantly decreasing in a closed system.
Eventually, the entire system will reach thermodynamic equilibrium. No differences in temperature = no energy can be extracted.
 
Ah - so the energy is still there, it's just not useful. Is that right?
 
By conservation of energy, the energy must still be there, yes.
 
And energy must always be there, it may get a different form but it is there
 
Ali Inam said:
And energy must always be there, it may get a different form but it is there

It may not even be in the different form. Its initial state might simply be an imbalance in heat distribution, which could be extracted to do work. But once the temperature has equalized, there's no way to extract it anymore.
 
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