Semi-circle linear charge Electric Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric field at the origin due to a semi-circle of radius R with a uniformly distributed charge Q. The participant initially determines that the electric field points in the +y direction and derives the expression for the electric field using symmetry and integration. After some back-and-forth regarding the linear charge density, it is clarified that the correct expression for linear charge density is λ = Q/(πR). The final electric field expression is confirmed as E = (1/2πε₀)(Q/(πR²))ŷ, which can also be represented in terms of λ. The participant expresses gratitude for the assistance received.
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Homework Statement



A semi-circle of radius R has a charge Q uniformly distributed over its length, which provides a line charge density λ. Determine E at the origin.

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I can tell by argument of symmetry that the Electric field will be pointing in +y direction.

If we take a sliver of the charge, call it dq, we will calculate the Electric field.

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{dq}{R^2}\right)sin(θ)

Also: \left(\frac{dq}{dθ}\right) = \left(\frac{Q}{π}\right)

so: dq = \left(\frac{Qdθ}{π}\right)

Now:

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Qsin(θ)}{πR^2}\right)dθ

After calculating the integral from θ = 0 to θ = π I get the following answer:E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^2}\right)\hat{y}

Does this work appear to be correct? I want to make sure I get this easy material down before I go to the more difficult material in electromagnetism. If so, is it fair to say that the linear charge density typically symbolized as λ is equal to Q/π in this problem. Q is the charge in coulombs and pi is the length of the semicircle. So I could represent my answer as:

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{λ}{R^2}\right)\hat{y}
 
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RJLiberator said:
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/105239/
I cannot open the file.
RJLiberator said:
Does this work appear to be correct?
Regardless of the missing picture, your final answer is correct.
RJLiberator said:
is it fair to say that the linear charge density typically symbolized as λ is equal to Q/π in this problem.
No, that cannot be a linear charge density since its dimension is the same as that of the charge. Note that the circumference of a semicircle must contain its radius.
 
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RJLiberator said:

Homework Statement



A semi-circle of radius R has a charge Q uniformly distributed over its length, which provides a line charge density λ. Determine E at the origin.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/105239

I can tell by argument of symmetry that the Electric field will be pointing in +y direction.

If we take a sliver of the charge, call it dq, we will calculate the Electric field.

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{dq}{R^2}\right)sin(θ)

Also: \left(\frac{dq}{dθ}\right) = \left(\frac{Q}{π}\right)

so: dq = \left(\frac{Qdθ}{π}\right)

Now:

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Qsin(θ)}{πR^2}\right)dθ

After calculating the integral from θ = 0 to θ = π I get the following answer:E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^2}\right)\hat{y}

Does this work appear to be correct? I want to make sure I get this easy material down before I go to the more difficult material in electromagnetism. If so, is it fair to say that the linear charge density typically symbolized as λ is equal to Q/π in this problem. Q is the charge in coulombs and pi is the length of the semicircle. So I could represent my answer as:

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{λ}{R^2}\right)\hat{y}
The radius is not 1, is it?

The charge is spread over the semicircle. What is 1/2 the circumference of a circle of radius, R ?

Also, missing from the problem statement is the location and orientation of the semi-circle. (I could not access the image.)
 
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Hey guys,

Sorry about the image not showing -- it was an accidental double post.

I see your point on the radius. I watched a video on this problem and did not take into consideration that the radius of that video = 1, while my radius = R. So the Linear charge density would be Q/(pi*R), is this now correct?

Due to this fact, I will have to change my answer slightly to:

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^3}\right)\hat{y}
 
RJLiberator said:
So the Linear charge density would be Q/(pi*R), is this now correct?
It's now correct.
RJLiberator said:
Due to this fact, I will have to change my answer slightly to:

E=(12πε0)(QπR3)^yE=(12πε0)(QπR3)y^​
Why would there be an extra ##R##? Your previous answer (2nd equation from the last in post#1) is already correct.
 
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If linear charge density
λ = \left(\frac{Q}{πR}\right)

Then the final answer :

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^2}\right)\hat{y}

which is:
E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{λ}{R}\right)\hat{y}

Thank you for the help.
 
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