SHM Spring System is Independent of Gravity?

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The discussion revolves around the period of a mass-spring system and its independence from gravitational acceleration. The original poster presents a derivation that suggests the period depends on gravity, questioning the established understanding of the system's behavior.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the period of a spring-mass system using Hooke's law and questions the role of gravitational force in their calculations. Participants inquire about the specific meaning of the variable representing spring extension and the conditions under which it is measured.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the definitions and conditions related to the spring's extension. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the variable x and its implications for the period of the system.

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Participants are examining the assumptions behind the derivation, particularly the conditions under which the spring is extended and the implications of gravity on the period of oscillation.

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For a mass-spring system,
Period, T = 2pi * root(m/k)

So using hookes law,
F = kx
But if the spring is being stretched by a mass due to gravity,
mg = kx
So,
k = mg/x

But then this means,
Period, T = 2pi * root(mx / mg)
or,
T = 2pi * root(x / g)

Where have I gone wrong? I've been told countless times that a spring-mass system's period is independent of g, but it seems my proof states otherwise.

Thanks
 
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Hlello, GameJammer. Welcome to PF!

GameJammer said:
So using hookes law,
F = kx
But if the spring is being stretched by a mass due to gravity,
mg = kx
So,
k = mg/x
Just to make sure, what is the precise meaning of x in this equation? Is it an arbitrary value of x or some specific value of x?
 
x is the extension of the spring, it's part of Hookes law
 
Yes. But it's the extension of the spring under what condition?
 
It's the extension of the string due to force F
 
Does x in your equation k = mg/x represent how much the spring is stretched if you just hang the mass on the spring and let it sit in equilibrium? Or does it represent something else?
 

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