SHM Spring System is Independent of Gravity?

In summary, the conversation discusses the period of a mass-spring system and the use of Hooke's law to determine the spring constant. The equation T = 2pi * root(mx / mg) suggests that the period is dependent on gravity, which contradicts the commonly held belief that it is independent of g. The conversation ends with a clarification on the meaning of x in the equation.
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GameJammer
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For a mass-spring system,
Period, T = 2pi * root(m/k)

So using hookes law,
F = kx
But if the spring is being stretched by a mass due to gravity,
mg = kx
So,
k = mg/x

But then this means,
Period, T = 2pi * root(mx / mg)
or,
T = 2pi * root(x / g)

Where have I gone wrong? I've been told countless times that a spring-mass system's period is independent of g, but it seems my proof states otherwise.

Thanks
 
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Hlello, GameJammer. Welcome to PF!

GameJammer said:
So using hookes law,
F = kx
But if the spring is being stretched by a mass due to gravity,
mg = kx
So,
k = mg/x
Just to make sure, what is the precise meaning of x in this equation? Is it an arbitrary value of x or some specific value of x?
 
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x is the extension of the spring, it's part of Hookes law
 
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Yes. But it's the extension of the spring under what condition?
 
  • #5
It's the extension of the string due to force F
 
  • #6
Does x in your equation k = mg/x represent how much the spring is stretched if you just hang the mass on the spring and let it sit in equilibrium? Or does it represent something else?
 

1. How is the SHM spring system independent of gravity?

The SHM spring system is independent of gravity because it is based on the principle of restoring force, which is the force that pulls the spring back to its equilibrium position. This force is not affected by gravity, as gravity only affects the mass attached to the spring, not the spring itself.

2. Can the SHM spring system work in a zero-gravity environment?

Yes, the SHM spring system can work in a zero-gravity environment as long as there is no external force acting on the spring. In this case, the spring will continue to oscillate back and forth without any influence from gravity.

3. What factors affect the SHM spring system?

The SHM spring system is affected by the stiffness of the spring, the mass attached to the spring, and the amplitude and frequency of the oscillations. These factors determine the period and frequency of the oscillations and can be manipulated to change the behavior of the system.

4. Is the SHM spring system affected by the weight of the mass attached to the spring?

Yes, the weight of the mass attached to the spring does affect the SHM spring system, but only in terms of the amplitude of the oscillations. The period and frequency of the oscillations are not affected by the weight of the mass, as long as the mass is not too heavy and does not cause the spring to reach its elastic limit.

5. How is the SHM spring system different from a simple pendulum?

The SHM spring system and a simple pendulum both exhibit periodic motion, but they are different in terms of the restoring force. The SHM spring system relies on the restoring force of the spring, while a simple pendulum relies on the restoring force of gravity. Additionally, the SHM spring system can have a wider range of oscillations compared to a simple pendulum, which is limited by the length of the string.

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