Show that Newton's 2nd Law is Not valid in accelerating reference frame

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The discussion revolves around the validity of Newton's Second Law in an accelerating reference frame, contrasting it with a laboratory frame where the law is considered valid. Participants are exploring the implications of acceleration on force and mass measurements in different frames of reference.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning how force, mass, and acceleration relate when measured in an accelerating frame compared to a laboratory frame. There are attempts to clarify which quantities remain constant and which change under acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of how Newton's Second Law applies in various frames. Some have offered insights into the relationships between force, mass, and acceleration, while others are seeking clarification on these concepts.

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There is a focus on the conditions under which Newton's laws are valid, particularly concerning constant acceleration and the implications for measurements in different frames. Participants are also considering the assumptions inherent in their discussions.

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Homework Statement


Show that Newton's Second Law is NOT valid in a reference frame moving past the laboratory frame of problem 1 with a constant acceleration?
Problem 1: In a laboratory frame of reference, an observer notes that Newton's Second Law is valid. Show that it is also valid for an observer moving at a constant speed, small compared with the speed of light, relative to the laboratory frame.
dx^1/dt = dx/dt-v
d^2x^1/dt^2= d^2x/dt^2
force new = force old
acceleration = d^2x/dt^2 and if v is constant = dv/dt = 0


Homework Equations


F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how to solve it
 
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If F1 = m1a1 measured in the Lab reference frame 1, which of F, m, and a, would be the same and which would be different if they are measured in an accelerating frame 2? If F1 = F2 and m1 = m2, but a1 ≠ a2, then you can say the F2 ≠ m2a2
 
Would the F and m be the same in the accelerating frame? If so, why?
 
Let me try this again: F would change, and m would stay the same?
 

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