Simple Harmonic Motion and parallel-axis-theorem

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The discussion revolves around solving two physics problems related to simple harmonic motion (SHM) and the parallel-axis theorem. The first problem involves demonstrating that the gravitational acceleration g can be expressed as g = L(2π/T)² using the period of a physical pendulum and the parallel-axis theorem. Participants express confusion about how to derive this relationship and how to relate the moment of inertia to the distance L. The second problem focuses on a metal rod pivoted at its midpoint, where participants explore the conditions for SHM and derive the equation of motion, ultimately seeking to relate angular acceleration to linear displacement. The conversation highlights the complexities of applying theoretical concepts to practical scenarios in physics.
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Hello,

I have problems solving the following two problems:
1)You measure the period of a physical pendulum about one pivot point to be T. Then you find another pivot point on the opposite side of the center of mass that gives the same period. The two points are separated by a distance L. Use the parallel-axis-theorem to show that g = L(2\pi/T)^2

2)A slender, uniform, metal rod with mass M is pivoted without friction about an axis through its midpoint and perpendicular to the rod. A horizontal spring with force constant k is attached to the lower end of the rod, with the other end of the spring attached to a rigid support. If the rod is displaced by a small angle \theta from the vertical and released, show that it moves in angular SHM and calculate the period (Hint: Assume that the angle is small enough so that sin(\theta) =~ \thetaand cos(\theta) =~ 1. The motion is simple harmonic if d^2\theta/dt^2 = -\omega^2\theta

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For 1)
The period for a physical Pendulum around P is given by:

T=2\pi \sqrt{\frac{I_p}{MgL}}

The Parallel axis theorem is:

I_p = I_{cm} + Md^2 (d is distance from the center of mass).

As far as I understand the problem, L = 2d. However, I can't seem to figure it out. Solving for g gives me:

g = (\frac{2\pi}{T})^2 \frac{I_p}{ML}

I don't know how \frac{I_p}{ML} is supposed to become L.

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For 2) I don't know where to start here. I can't even imagine how this rod would undergo any kind of harmonic motion. The picture confuses me and I can't imagine the rod moving.
 
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In the second problem, the spring imparts a force kx to the end of the rod, where k is the spring constant and x is the displacement of the traveling end of the spring (and end of rod) from the equilibrium position (zero spring force).

x is also L/2 sin \theta, where L is the length of the rod.

If the angle is very small, we approximate sin(\theta) =~ \theta in order to make a linear differential equation.
 
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Astronuc said:
In the second problem, the spring imparts a force kx to the end of the rod, where k is the spring constant and x is the displacement of the traveling end of the spring (and end of rod) from the equilibrium position (zero spring force).

x is also L/2 sin \theta, where L is the length of the rod.

If the angle is very small, we approximate sin(\theta) =~ \theta in order to make a linear differential equation.
Hm, thank you.

I used \sum\tau = I\alpha)
and came up with:
\sum\tau = -k\frac{L}{2}sin(\theta)(\frac{L}{2}cos(\theta)) = -k\frac{L^2}{4}\theta

=> I\alpha + k\frac{L^2}{4}\theta = I\frac{d^2\theta}{dt^2} + k\frac{L^2}{4}\theta = 0
That should be SHM.

However, how do they get to \frac{d^2\theta}{dt^2} = -\omega^2\theta ?

Also, any ideas for Problem 1)?
 
Well - in the second problem, \omega^2 would = k/m, and 1/m is related to L2/I.

I seen in the first problem that g is an acceleration based on units of L/T2, so is there a way to relate angular acceleration (which is the same for any point in a rigid body) to that of the linear acceleration, which varies with the distance from the pivot to the location of interest?
 
Astronuc said:
I seen in the first problem that g is an acceleration based on units of L/T2, so is there a way to relate angular acceleration (which is the same for any point in a rigid body) to that of the linear acceleration, which varies with the distance from the pivot to the location of interest?
I can't follow you on this one. Yes, I know that a_{tan}=r\alpha for a rigid body, but I don't see any angular/linear accelerations in the equation we would have to "convert". My goal is to get g=(\frac{2\pi}{T})^2L
 
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