Simple harmonic motion homework

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to simple harmonic motion, specifically involving pendulums and energy equations. Participants are exploring concepts of gravitational potential energy and the dynamics of mass centers in oscillatory systems.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the mass center and relevant angles in the context of pendulum motion. Questions arise regarding the application of energy equations and the interpretation of potential energy in relation to the mass center's height.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering guidance on how to approach the problem. Some are questioning the assumptions made about the mass center and the baseline for height in potential energy calculations. There is a mix of familiarity with pendulum problems and uncertainty about how to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of prior experience with pendulum problems, having primarily worked with springs in their classes. This context may influence their approach to the current homework problem.

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
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I don't know how to start doing this homework. I would like help to
orient myself.
 
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misterpicachu said:
Homework Statement:: all below
Relevant Equations:: all below

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I don't know how to start doing this homework. I would like help to
orient myself.
Welcome to PhysicsForums.

Per the rules, you need to start working on your homework problem before we can offer tutorial help. Try writing the energy equation that is asked for in the first part. Have you worked with pendulum problems in the past?
 
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If you cannot yet attempt the energy equation, start by identifying the mass centre the question refers to and adding the angle it mentions to the diagram.
Then list the forms of energy that need to be in the equation, then the variables which contribute to those.
 
haruspex said:
If you cannot yet attempt the energy equation, start by identifying the mass centre the question refers to and adding the angle it mentions to the diagram.
Then list the forms of energy that need to be in the equation, then the variables which contribute to those.
that's the problem in my classes we never work with pendulums only with springs
 
misterpicachu said:
that's the problem in my classes we never work with pendulums only with springs
I do not see how that prevents you from attempting the steps I listed. Have a go.
 
haruspex said:
I do not see how that prevents you from attempting the steps I listed. Have a go.
the mass centre gave me (√3/2)*L and then I used it as the height in the potential energy formula, is that ok?
 
misterpicachu said:
the mass centre gave me (√3/2)*L and then I used it as the height in the potential energy formula, is that ok?
Height from what baseline? And what about the angle θ?
 
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For purposes of calculating the gravitational potential energy of this rigid body, you can equivalently consider a point mass ##2m## located at the centre of mass (if you are interested, this is because if ##\vec{g} = -g\hat{y}##, we have ##U = \int_{\mathbb{R}} d^3 x\rho(\vec{x}) g y = g\int_{\mathbb{R}} d^3 x \rho(\vec{x}) y = Mg\bar{y}##), like this:
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##\theta## is defined here as the angle of the centre of mass from the downward vertical. What is the potential energy of this configuration, up to a constant?
 
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