What is the displacement equation for simple harmonic motion without damping?

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The discussion focuses on finding the displacement equation for simple harmonic motion without damping. The key equation presented is d²x/dt² = -kx/m + F/m, with the proposed displacement solution being x = Asin(ωt + φ). It is noted that when ω² = k/m, the response grows indefinitely and is 90 degrees out of phase with the applied force. The conversation also highlights the importance of verifying equations by substituting them back into the original differential equations. Overall, the thread emphasizes the exploration of harmonic motion equations and their correct formulations.
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(This isn't homework)
I've been crating some notes, and noticed that we haven't been told one equation.
I know for:
\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = \frac{-kx}{m} -\frac{b}{m} \frac{dx}{dt}
I know the displacement is:
x = A \omega e^{-bt/2m} cos(\omega t+ \phi)

[Ie damping]

I know for:
\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = \frac{-kx}{m} -\frac{b}{m} \frac{dx}{dt} + \frac{F}{m}
I know the displacement for this is:
x = Asin(\omega t + \phi) (omega is for driving force).

But what about:
\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = \frac{-kx}{m} + \frac{F}{m}
I.e. No damping, what would x be for this?

Thank you!

[This is out of pure interest]
 
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When \omega^2 \ne k/m, it makes no difference if b = 0, except that \phi will always be 0 or \pi

When \omega^2 = k/m the solution is of the form

x = A t \cos (\omega t)

In words, the response grows without limit, and it is 90 degrees out of phase with the applied force.
 
The solution for your second equation should have a b in it, but it does not appear. For the third equation use the second equation solution with b=0.
 
Gah first off i made a mistake on the first one, should have no omega next to A (demensions wouldn't equate)

Ok it would seem i have some equations written down wrong (well two).

\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = \frac{-kx}{m} + \frac{F}{m}
Would
x = Asin(\omega t + \phi) (i.e. the cos shifts by pi/2 to make sine?)

And
\frac{d^2 x}{dt^2} = \frac{-kx}{m} -\frac{b}{m} \frac{dx}{dt} + \frac{F}{m}

x = A e^{-bt/2m} sin(\omega t + \phi)

Let me know if these are right :)
 
Have you tried verifying them yourself. Simply plug your answers back into the equations.
 
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