Simple Parallel Circuit Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a parallel circuit with resistors, where the original poster seeks to determine the voltages and currents in the circuit. The focus is on identifying parallel resistors and applying circuit laws to find unknown values.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the identification of parallel resistors, specifically questioning the conditions under which resistors are considered parallel. There is discussion about using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and current division to find unknown currents.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed the identification of certain resistors as parallel and have shared methods for calculating currents. There is ongoing exploration of how to apply KCL to find additional unknowns, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the number of unknowns present.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is mention of a diagram that is referenced but not provided in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


I have to find V0 and I0.
[PLAIN]http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3058/resistor.png

Homework Equations


I am having trouble identifying parallel resistors.


The Attempt at a Solution


So far I think that the 70 ohm and 30 ohm resistors are parallel but I am not sure. I know the share the same node at the top but don't they also have to share the same node as the bottom? Which is not the case (I don't think) due to that middle line that separates the top two resistors from the bottom two.

I just need to know if those are parallel.
 
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gomezfx said:
So far I think that the 70 ohm and 30 ohm resistors are parallel but I am not sure. I know the share the same node at the top but don't they also have to share the same node as the bottom? Which is not the case (I don't think) due to that middle line that separates the top two resistors from the bottom two.

I just need to know if those are parallel.

Yes, the 70 ohm and 30 ohm resistors are parallel.

Imaging that middle line to be shorter, would it matter? Since you are assuming the wires have no resistance it would not. So imagine that is was just a point, that should make it clear that the 70 ohm and 30 ohm resistors are parallel.
 
Ok thanks. After figuring out those were parallel, I was able to find i, i1, and i2 using current division.

Assuming my values are correct, how do I go about finding i0?
I was thinking of using KCL but I think I have too many unknowns.

Here's my current diagram:
[PLAIN]http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3058/resistor.png
 
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Just as you found i1 and i2 you could calculate an i3 and i4 through the two remaining resistor, and then use KCL to find i0
 
would I do i3=(R4*i1)/(R3+R4) and i4=(R3*i2)/(R3+R4) ?

edit. nevermind, i found i3 using KVL :)
 
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gomezfx said:
would I do i3=(R4*i1)/(R3+R4) and i4=(R3*i2)/(R3+R4)

Yes you would
 

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