Simple pendulum problem - having trouble with the math

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The discussion revolves around a simple pendulum problem set on Mars, where participants are trying to determine the required length of the pendulum for a specified period of 2.00 seconds, given the local gravitational acceleration. The problem involves mathematical reasoning related to the pendulum's period formula.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss their attempts to manipulate the period formula to solve for the pendulum length. Questions arise regarding the correctness of their algebraic approaches and the validity of the expected answer. Some participants also explore variations of the problem, questioning how changes in length affect gravitational acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants confirming each other's algebraic methods and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding checking results by substituting back into the original equation. There is a lack of consensus on the correct answer, with differing values presented by participants.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, with a looming exam deadline. There is mention of a professor's expected answer, which some participants question based on their calculations.

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Simple pendulum problem - having trouble with the math!

Homework Statement


A simple pendulum is set up on Mars where g=3.72m/s^2. How long should pendulum be if period T is to be 2.00 seconds?

Homework Equations


T=2pia(3.14) times square root of l(length)/gravity

The Attempt at a Solution


I placed in 2 seconds for T and divided it by 2pia(3.14). Then I squared this number and then multiplied it by 3.72 to solve for l(length). The correct answer is supposed to be .965 but I did not get this answer. Can anyone please help. I have an exam in 2 days! Any input will be greatly appreciated.
 
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So, what did you come up with? I think the "correct answer" is wrong.
 


Thank you for your response. The answer I got was .377 meters. My professor stated in class that the answer was .965. Is this the answer that you got as well? Is the manner in which I approached the algebra correct?
 


Yes, that's what I got. Your algebra looks immaculate! As a check, you can always plug your result back into the equation and see it you get the right T. Good luck with your test (and welcome to PF!)
 


Thank you very much for confirming that I did the algebra correctly. My professor also suggested that we do a variation of the problem where length=.965m and T=2.00 and then attempt to solve for gravity (answer should be 3.72 m/s^2). Can you assist me in solving this problem. We are of course using the same equation of T=2pia(3.14) times the square root of length over gravity. I began to attempt to solve this problem in a similar manner by dividing 2.00 by 2pia(3.14) and then squaring that number. The next step is puzzling for me because of my lack of algebra. I decided to divide that number by .965. Can you please assist me in this last step. The answer I get is .105 m/s^2. Any help on how to solve this problem will be greatly appreciated.
 


Notice in this equation that if you increase l (say, from 0.377 to .965), then g must also increase for T to remain constant.

[tex]T = 2\pi\sqrt{\frac{l}{g}}[/tex]

Here is what you did:

[tex]\frac{T}{2\pi} = \sqrt{\frac{l}{g}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{T^2}{4\pi^2} = \frac{l}{g}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{T^2}{4l\pi^2} = \frac{1}{g}[/tex]

I think you solved for 1/g. Can you think of what to do to bring up g to the numerator?
 


If you use g = 9.81 m/s^2 in the formula for the period of a pendulum, then the length of 0.965 m gives a period of 2 s. An l = 0.377 m and a g = 3.72 m/s^2 also gives a period of 2 s. Your 'professor' owes you an apology and he is also due a head slap for not checking his math.
 


Im also having problems with this simple pendulum equation if you have a 1m long pendulum with a 2kg mass is pulled back 0.1 m and then released so that it swings back and forth predict what the horizontal position x will look like as a function of time i can't figure out how this equation goes i have been on the same thing for 2 days I am stuck can someone help me please
 

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