Simple Pendulum: Understand the Relationship Between Theta & L

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the angle of displacement (theta) and the length of a simple pendulum (L), specifically how this relationship relates to the restoring force acting on the pendulum. Participants are exploring the mathematical and conceptual aspects of this relationship as presented in a physics textbook.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the relationship x = (theta) * L and how it relates to the arc length of the pendulum's swing. Questions are raised about the unit conversion involved in this relationship and how it leads to the arc length.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the definition of arc length and its approximation to horizontal displacement for small angles. However, there is still some confusion regarding the unit conversion and the application of the angle in radians, indicating an ongoing exploration of these concepts.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the need for clarity on the unit conversion when using the relationship between angle and arc length, as well as the distinction between arc length and horizontal displacement, particularly in the context of small angles.

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1. Homework Statement
Hey guys, I am reading my Physics book, in that specific section it says "the restoring force must be directly proportional to x or (because x=(theta)*L) to theta"

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I have tried to look for that x=(theta)*L relationship online; however, I was not able to find it. I was hoping someone here could explain that relationship to me.
Thank you.
 
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Did you draw a force diagram? It should become clear from that.
 
Yeah it comes with a diagram, but i do not see how multiplying L by the displaced angle, I can end up with the length of the arc. Like, how the unit conversion works. for that? With the diagram I can see where the the restoring force in the pendulum comes from though.
 
The arc length is L*theta by definition of the arc length or the angle.
For small angles, this is approximately equal to the horizontal displacement as well.
 
And how would the unit conversion work that by doing the equation, it provides the arc length?
 
SebastianRM said:
And how would the unit conversion work that by doing the equation, it provides the arc length?
I'm not able to parse that question, so I'm not sure what you are asking. The angle must be provided in radians. The definition of the radian is that if the angle is measured in radians then multiplying it by the radius gives the arc length.
Of course, if x is the horizontal displacement then that is not the same as the arc length, but as mfb posted they are approximately the same for small angles.
 
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