Simplifying the inverse Laplace Transform using the inverse shift formula

In summary: You must be a genius!In summary, the conversation was about finding the inverse Laplace Transform of $\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}$, where the denominator is a non-factorable quadratic. The expert suggested completing the square and applying a shift. The original poster then provided their own solution using a different shift formula, which was confirmed to be correct by the expert.
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Drain Brain
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before I go to bed(it's 11:30pm in my place), here is the last problem that I need help with

find the inverse Laplace Transform

$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}$

the denominator is a non-factorable quadratic. I don't know what to do.

thanks!
 
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Hint: Try completing the square on the denominator...:D
 
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Drain Brain said:

before I go to bed(it's 11:30pm in my place), here is the last problem that I need help with

find the inverse Laplace Transform

$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}$

the denominator is a non-factorable quadratic. I don't know what to do.

thanks!

Hmmm, 11:30pm... You wouldn't happen to live in Perth would you? :P

Mark is right, completing the square is the way to go. You will then need to apply a shift...
 
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Drain Brain said:

before I go to bed(it's 11:30pm in my place), here is the last problem that I need help with

find the inverse Laplace Transform

$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}$

the denominator is a non-factorable quadratic. I don't know what to do.

thanks!

$$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}=\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+9+9}=\frac{4s-2}{(s-3)^2+9}=4 \frac{s}{(s-3)^2+9}-2 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9} \\ =4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}$$

$$\mathscr{L}^{-1} \left ( 4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right )=4 \mathscr{L}^{-1} \left( \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9} \right )+\frac{10}{3} \mathscr{L}^{-1}\left (\frac{3}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right ) \\ =4 e^{3t} \cos(3t)+\frac{10}{3} e^{3t} \sin(3t)$$
 
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evinda said:
$$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}=\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+9+9}=\frac{4s-2}{(s-3)^2+9}=4 \frac{s}{(s-3)^2+9}-2 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9} \\ =4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}$$

$$\mathscr{L}^{-1} \left ( 4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right )=4 \mathscr{L}^{-1} \left( \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9} \right )+\frac{10}{3} \mathscr{L}^{-1}\left (\frac{3}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right ) \\ =4 e^{3t} \cos(3t)+\frac{10}{3} e^{3t} \sin(3t)$$

Looks good :)
 
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evinda said:
$$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}=\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+9+9}=\frac{4s-2}{(s-3)^2+9}=4 \frac{s}{(s-3)^2+9}-2 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9} \\ =4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}$$

$$\mathscr{L}^{-1} \left ( 4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right )=4 \mathscr{L}^{-1} \left( \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9} \right )+\frac{10}{3} \mathscr{L}^{-1}\left (\frac{3}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right ) \\ =4 e^{3t} \cos(3t)+\frac{10}{3} e^{3t} \sin(3t)$$

Impeccable...but now the OP doesn't get to "play." :D
 
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evinda said:
$$\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+18}=\frac{4s-2}{s^2-6s+9+9}=\frac{4s-2}{(s-3)^2+9}=4 \frac{s}{(s-3)^2+9}-2 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9} \\ =4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}$$

$$\mathscr{L}^{-1} \left ( 4 \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9}+10 \frac{1}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right )=4 \mathscr{L}^{-1} \left( \frac{s-3}{(s-3)^2+9} \right )+\frac{10}{3} \mathscr{L}^{-1}\left (\frac{3}{(s-3)^2+9}
\right ) \\ =4 e^{3t} \cos(3t)+\frac{10}{3} e^{3t} \sin(3t)$$

I was kind of happy when I saw the solution to this last problem thinking that I'll just copy it and wulah! my assignment is complete but then I noticed something and tried to solve the problem myself.

Instead of replacing $s$ with $s-3$ I replaced it with $s+3$ to have $s^2+3^2$

$e^{3t}\mathscr{L}^{-1}\left[4\frac{s+3}{s^2+3^2}-2\frac{1}{s^2+3^2}\right]$

$e^{3t} \mathscr{L}^{-1}\left[4\left(\frac{s}{s^2+3^2}+\frac{3}{s^2+3^2}\right)-2\frac{1}{s^2+3^2}\right]$

$e^{3t} \left[4\left(\cos(3t)+\frac{3}{3}\sin(3t)\right)-\frac{2}{3}\sin(3t)\right]$$e^{3t}\left[4\cos(3t)+4\sin(3t)-\frac{2}{3}\sin(3t)\right]$

$4e^{3t}\cos(3t)+4e^{3t}\sin(3t)-\frac{2}{3}e^{3t}\sin(3t)$ ---->>> this is my final answer please check :)

 
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Drain Brain said:

I was kind of happy when I saw the solution to this last problem thinking that I'll just copy it and wulah! my assignment is complete but then I noticed something and tried to solve the problem myself.

Instead of replacing $s$ with $s-3$ I replaced it with $s+3$ to have $s^2+3^2$

$e^{3t}\mathscr{L}^{-1}\left[4\frac{s+3}{s^2+3^2}-2\frac{1}{s^2+3^2}\right]$

$e^{3t} \mathscr{L}^{-1}\left[4\left(\frac{s}{s^2+3^2}+\frac{3}{s^2+3^2}\right)-2\frac{1}{s^2+3^2}\right]$

$e^{3t} \left[4\left(\cos(3t)+\frac{3}{3}\sin(3t)\right)-\frac{2}{3}\sin(3t)\right]$$e^{3t}\left[4\cos(3t)+4\sin(3t)-\frac{2}{3}\sin(3t)\right]$

$4e^{3t}\cos(3t)+4e^{3t}\sin(3t)-\frac{2}{3}e^{3t}\sin(3t)$ ---->>> this is my final answer please check :)


How did you get to this relation: $e^{3t}\mathscr{L}^{-1}\left[4\frac{s+3}{s^2+3^2}-2\frac{1}{s^2+3^2}\right]$ ?
 
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evinda said:
How did you get to this relation: $e^{3t}\mathscr{L}^{-1}\left[4\frac{s+3}{s^2+3^2}-2\frac{1}{s^2+3^2}\right]$ ?

using the Inverse shift formula $\mathscr{L}^{-1}[F(s)]=e^{\alpha t}\mathscr{L}^{-1}[F(s+\alpha)]$. I want to get rid of -3 in my denominator to simplify it to $\frac{4(s+3)}{(s+3-3)^2+3^2}=\frac{4(s+3)}{(s)^2+3^2}$ you can see that this matches with
$\frac{s}{s^2+\beta^{2}}=\cos(\beta t)$ and $\frac{\beta}{s^2+\beta^{2}}=\sin(\beta t) $
 
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Drain Brain said:

using the Inverse shift formula $\mathscr{L}^{-1}[F(s)]=e^{\alpha t}\mathscr{L}^{-1}[F(s+\alpha)]$. I want to get rid of -3 in my denominator to simplify it to $\frac{4(s+3)}{(s+3-3)^2+3^2}=\frac{4(s+3)}{(s)^2+3^2}$ you can see that this matches with
$\frac{s}{s^2+\beta^{2}}=\cos(\beta t)$ and $\frac{\beta}{s^2+\beta^{2}}=\sin(\beta t) $

I checked it...It is correct! (Yes)
 

Related to Simplifying the inverse Laplace Transform using the inverse shift formula

1. What is an inverse Laplace transform?

The inverse Laplace transform is a mathematical operation that converts a function in the Laplace domain back to its original form in the time domain. It is the reverse process of the Laplace transform and is used to solve differential equations and analyze dynamic systems.

2. How is the inverse Laplace transform calculated?

The inverse Laplace transform is calculated using a table of Laplace transforms or through the use of partial fraction decomposition and the residue theorem. The specific method used depends on the complexity of the function in the Laplace domain.

3. What is the relationship between the Laplace transform and the inverse Laplace transform?

The Laplace transform and the inverse Laplace transform are inverse operations of each other. The Laplace transform converts a function from the time domain to the Laplace domain, while the inverse Laplace transform converts it back to the time domain.

4. What are the applications of the inverse Laplace transform?

The inverse Laplace transform is used in various fields such as engineering, physics, and mathematics. It is particularly useful in solving differential equations and analyzing dynamic systems, making it a valuable tool in modeling and control systems.

5. Are there any limitations to using the inverse Laplace transform?

Yes, there are limitations to using the inverse Laplace transform. It may not be possible to calculate the inverse Laplace transform for some functions, and the calculation can be complex for highly intricate functions. Additionally, the inverse Laplace transform assumes that the function being transformed is of exponential order, which may not always be the case.

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