Solution to (D+2)(D+3)y=4t+5e^t with Initial Conditions y(0)=4, y'(0)=5

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The discussion focuses on solving the differential equation (D + 2)(D + 3)y = 4t + 5e^t with initial conditions y(0)=4 and y'(0)=5. The initial proposed solution was incorrect, leading to a review of the general solution provided by Maple. The concept of an annihilator was introduced to simplify the right side of the equation to zero, and the participants worked through the homogeneous solution and the particular solution. A system of equations was derived to find the arbitrary constants, revealing a misunderstanding about combining terms related to those constants. The conversation concludes with a realization of the mistake in handling the constants, leading to a clearer understanding of the solution process.
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Solve the following differential equation:

(D + 2)(D + 3)y = 4t + 5e^t; y(0)=4, y'(0)=5

I have the following as the answer is it correct?

y=17e^{-2t} -13e^{-3t} + \frac{4}{11}t + \frac{5}{12}e^t
 
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You try plugging your answer back into the equation, to see if it works out right?
 
Nope.Here's what Maple gives as the general solution

\frac{d^2 y}{dx^2}+5\frac{dy}{dx}+6y=4x+5e^x Exact solution is :

y\left( x\right) =\frac{2}{3}x-\frac{5}{9}+\frac{5}{12}e^x+C_1 e^{-3x}+C_2 e^{-2x}

I get some nasty looking coeff.

Daniel.
 
i am way off then. by the way could MATLAB solve this problem?
 
I'm not understanding what my professor calls an annihilator. what i have is

this D.E.

(D + 2)(D + 3)y = 4t + 5e^t;y(0)=4,y'(0)=5

I need to find a differential opperator that will make the right side of this D.E.

zero. So i think that this differential opperator (annihilator) should be this.

D^2(D-1)

So to solve this problem i need to solve this homogenous D.E. first:

(D + 2)(D + 3)y=0 and its solutions are this:

y_c=C_1e^{-2t} + C_2e^{-3t}

now i need to find the other part which involves the differential opperator. so

now i need to solve this part D^2(D-1)=0

which yields C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t

if all of the above is correct i need to find out what the arbitrary constants of

C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t are

so what i do is say that this C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t is equal to

y_p

so now i have y_p= C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t

now i find y'_p and y''_p

y'_p= C_4 +C_5e^t

y''_p=C_5e^t

now what i do is plug in all the y-sub-p's into this y'' + 5y' +6y= 4t +5e^t

and match up the the coef. to find out what the constants are

what i get is this

12C_5e^t + 5C_4 + 6tC_4 + 6C_3= 4t + 5e^t

now my problem is that the C-sub-4's are not the same. one of them is

multiplied by t which is a problem because i can't get the coef. to match

what have i done wrong?
 
You have this system

\left\{\begin{array}{c} 5C_{4}+6C_{3}=0\\6C_{4}=4 \end{array} \right

Solve it.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
You have this system

\left\{\begin{array}{c} 5C_{4}+6C_{3}=0\\6C_{4}=4 \end{array} \right

Solve it.

Daniel.


i don't see why could you elaborate?
 
RadiationX said:
12C_5e^t + 5C_4 + 6tC_4 + 6C_3= 4t + 5e^t

That should read

12C_{5} e^{t}+6C_{4}t+\left(5C_{4}+6C_{3}\right)\equiv 5e^{t}+4t+0

Do you see where the system i posted comes from...?

Daniel.
 
ahh! yes i see now. i made a simple mistake, but to be truthful i did not know that i could combine csub4 and csub3 but now i see why i can.
 
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