Solve acos²θ+bsinθ+c=0 for all values 0≤θ≤360°

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The discussion focuses on solving the equation 16cos²θ + 6sinθ - 12 = 0 for θ in the range 0° to 360°. The user attempts to convert the equation using the identity cos²θ = 1 - sin²θ, leading to a quadratic form in terms of sinθ. However, there are errors in the quadratic solutions, particularly in calculating sinθ values, which results in incorrect angle calculations. Participants emphasize the importance of accurately solving the quadratic equation before deriving θ values, suggesting that the user verify their results by substituting back into the original equation. The conversation highlights the need for careful algebraic manipulation and verification in trigonometric problem-solving.
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Homework Statement


Solve acos²θ+bsinθ+c=0 for all values 0≤θ≤360°

a=16
b=6
c=-12

So 16cos²θ+6sinθ-12=0

Homework Equations


Cos²x=1-Sin²x

The Attempt at a Solution


Identity: Cos²x=1-Sin²x

16(1-Sin²θ)+6Sinθ-12=0

16-16Sin²θ+6Sinθ-12=0

6Sinθ-16Sin²θ=12-16=-4

Divide by 2(?)

3Sinθ-8Sin²θ=-2
3Sinθ-4Sin³θ=-2

3Sinθ-4Sin³θ=Sin3θ

Sin3θ=-2

I realized that I am stuck at this point and can’t work out how to find θ from this, although it feels like I am missing something obvious. Any help would be appreciated!
 
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DanRow93 said:
3Sinθ-8Sin²θ=-2
3Sinθ-4Sin³θ=-2

$$
3\sinθ-8\sin^2θ=-2$$
$$3\sinθ-4\sin^{\color{red}{3}}θ=-2

$$

Where does that three come from ?
 
Buffu said:
$$
3\sinθ-8\sin^2θ=-2$$
$$3\sinθ-4\sin^{\color{red}{3}}θ=-2

$$

Where does that three come from ?

I tried to change 8Sin²θ into Sin³θ, but I guess that doesn’t work. I think it’s because I had Sin3θ written down, so I was trying to make it work out as that.
 
16-16Sin²θ+6Sinθ-12=0

16Sin²θ-6Sinθ=4

Sinθ(16Sinθ-6)=4

I still can’t work out what to do next.
 
Hint: Let sinθ = x. What kind of equation would you have for x?
 
Doc Al said:
Hint: Let sinθ = x. What kind of equation would you have for x?

A quadratic equation?

ax²+bx+c=0

16x²-6x-4=0

Sinθ=6±√-6²-(4×16×-4)∕2×16 (Sorry not sure how to type that so it looks more clear)

Sinθ=0.65
Sinθ=-0.28

Sin–1(0.65)=40.54°
Sin–1(-0.28)=-16.26°

But seeing as it is between 0° and 360°

θ1 = 40.54°
θ2 = 180°-40.54°=139.46° (?)
 
Hopefully that's right
 
DanRow93 said:
A quadratic equation?

ax²+bx+c=0

16x²-6x-4=0

Sinθ=6±√-6²-(4×16×-4)∕2×16 (Sorry not sure how to type that so it looks more clear)

Sinθ=0.65
Sinθ=-0.28

Sin–1(0.65)=40.54°
Sin–1(-0.28)=-16.26°

But seeing as it is between 0° and 360°

θ1 = 40.54°
θ2 = 180°-40.54°=139.46° (?)

You wrote
$$\sin \theta = 6 \pm \frac{\sqrt{-6^2 - (4 \times 16 \times -4)}}{2} \times 16 $$
Did you mean
$$ \sin \theta = \frac{6 \pm \sqrt{(-6)^2 - 4\times16\times (-4)}}{2 \times 16}?\:$$
If so, use parentheses, like this:
[6 ± √[(-6)^2 - 4 × 16 ×(-4)]]/(2 × 16).
Better still, use LaTeX.

Anyway, ##x = 0.65## and ##x = -0.28## are nowhere near being solutions of the equation ##16 x^2 - 6 x -4 = 0##. In fact, if ##f(x) = 16 x^2 - 6 x - 4## we have ##f(0.65) = -1.1400## and ##f(-0.28) = -1.0656##.
 
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Ray Vickson said:
You wrote
$$\sin \theta = 6 \pm \frac{\sqrt{-6^2 - (4 \times 16 \times -4)}}{2} \times 16 $$
Did you mean
$$ \sin \theta = \frac{6 \pm \sqrt{(-6)^2 - 4\times16\times (-4)}}{2 \times 16}?\:$$
If so, use parentheses, like this:
[6 ± √[(-6)^2 - 4 × 16 ×(-4)]]/(2 × 16).
Better still, use LaTeX.

Anyway, ##x = 0.65## and ##x = -0.28## are nowhere near being solutions of the equation ##16 x^2 - 6 x -4 = 0##. In fact, if ##f(x) = 16 x^2 - 6 x - 4## we have ##f(0.65) = -1.1400## and ##f(-0.28) = -1.0656##.

Yes I meant that, sorry this is the first time I have tried to type an equation rather than write it.

Not sure what you mean there. It asks for the angles between 0° and 360°, can I not just Sin^-1(x) to get θ?
 
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DanRow93 said:
Not sure what you mean there. It asks for the angles between 0° and 360°, can I not just Sin^-1(x) to get θ?
First you must correctly solve the quadratic. Then you can solve for all values of θ that work.
 
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DanRow93 said:
Yes I meant that, sorry this is the first time I have tried to type an equation rather than write it.

Not sure what you mean there. It asks for the angles between 0° and 360°, can I not just Sin^-1(x) to get θ?

You obtained ##x=\sin \theta## by solving a quadratic equation; then you used the values of ##x## to get values of ##\theta##. Your values of ##x## are incorrect, so your values of ##\theta## are also incorrect.

Do not take my word for it: test it for yourself. Take your value ##\theta = 40.54^o## and plug it into the function ##f(\theta) = 16 \cos^2(\theta) + 6 \sin(\theta) -12##, to see if you get zero (except for small roundoff errors).
 
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