Solving for Maximum Speed of Ball in a Pendulum Swing

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To solve for the maximum speed of a 5 kg ball in a pendulum swing, the conservation of mechanical energy is essential. The maximum speed can be derived using the equation for gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy. The calculation involves determining the change in height and applying the formula v = √(2gh) to find the speed. It is clarified that angular frequency and angular velocity are distinct concepts, with the former being relevant in uniform circular motion. Ultimately, the correct approach leads to the expected maximum speed of 14 m/s.
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A 5 kg ball hangs from a 10 m strong. The ball is swung horizontally outward 90 degrees from its equilibrium position. Assuming the system behaves as a simple pendulum, find the maximum speed of the ball during its swing.


what would I have to do to figure this problem out?

\omega = \sqrt{\frac{g}{l}}
\omega = \sqrt{\frac{9.8}{10}}
\omega=0.99rad/s

\omega r =v
0.99rad/s* 10m =v
v=9.9m/s

I'm not getting the answer of 14, what am I doing wrong?
 
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HINT:Use the law of conservation of total mechanical energy.

Daniel.
 
yes conservation of energy is always better than mechanics when it comes to fussy math equations. Think of the change in gravitation potential energy.
 
And BTW,v=\omega R could work in this case if u knew the maximum angular velocity...

Daniel.
 
okay, i used gh=.5v^2 and got the answer I was looking for

As for v=\omega R, isn't that what \omega=\sqrt{\frac{g}{l}} is? what is omega in that previous equation if it isn't angular velocity?
 
Nope,angular velocity is a very complicated function (something involving elliptic functions "cn" and "dn"),because the linear approximation \sin \vartheta\simeq \vartheta would not be correct...

Daniel.
 
I read in the book that omega in \omega=\sqrt{\frac{g}{l}} is angular frequency. How is that different from angular velocity?
 
Angular velocity is

\omega (t)=:\frac{d\vartheta (t)}{dt}

and angular frequency is

\omega =:\frac{2\pi}{T}

These 2 #-s (denoted the same ) are equal only for a uniform circular motion .The bob from a mathematical pendulum (not even in the linear approximation) doesn't have a uniform circular motion,ergo the two "animals" are different.


Daniel.
 
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