Solving Rotational Motion of Wheel with 3.21 kg Block

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The problem involves the rotational motion of a wheel connected to a block via a cord. The wheel has a specified radius and rotational inertia, while the block is subjected to a horizontal force. The goal is to determine the angular acceleration of the wheel based on the given parameters and forces acting on the system.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between tension, torque, and angular acceleration, with some questioning the assumption of the wheel's moment of inertia.
  • There are attempts to derive equations relating the forces acting on the block and the torque on the wheel, with varying results and interpretations of signs in the equations.
  • Some participants suggest re-evaluating the equations used, particularly regarding the direction of forces and the application of torque.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the equations and the implications of their assumptions. Some have provided alternative approaches to the problem, while others are reconsidering their calculations based on feedback from peers.

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There is a noted discrepancy in the sign of the angular acceleration, which may be affecting the acceptance of the solution. Participants are also working under the constraints of homework guidelines that may limit the information they can use or assumptions they can make.

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Homework Statement


A wheel of radius 0.358 m is mounted on a frictionless horizontal axis. The rotational inertia of the wheel about the axis is 0.0421 kg·m2. A massless cord wrapped around the wheel is attached to a 3.21 kg block that slides on a horizontal frictionless surface. If a horizontal force of magnitude P = 4.31 N is applied to the block as shown in Fig. 10-54, what is the angular acceleration of the wheel? Take the clockwise direction to be the negative direction and assume the string does not slip on the wheel.

http://edugen.wiley.com/edugen/courses/crs1650/art/qb/qu/c10/fig10_54.gif


Homework Equations



tnet = I(alpha)

at [tangential acceleration] = (alpha)r

The Attempt at a Solution



I did the forces of the box and got that Ft = p [the horizontal force] - ma where m is the mass of the box.
So, Ft = p - ma

I found the net torque of the disk rotating at the center of its axis to be -Ftr and the rotational inertia of the disk to be I = 1/2Mr^2 where M is the mass of the disk.
So, Tnet = -Ftr & I = 1/2Mr^2

We know that Tnet = I[alpha] so therefore,
-Ftr = 1/2Mr^2[alpha]

We know that the string does not slip on the wheel, therefore the tangential acceleration is equal to the angular acceleration times it's radius.
at = [alpha]r
[alpha] = at/r

So by substituting it to the previous equation, I get
-Ftr = 1/2Mr^2(at/r)
Cleaning up this equation I get
Ft = -1/2Ma

Before I go any further, I found the mass of the disk by using I = 1/2Mr^2. We know that I=0.0421 kg m^2.
0.0421 = 1/2Mr^2 we know what r is so therefore,
M = .657 kg

So I then set the tension found using the disk and the free body diagram of the box equal to each other to get
P - ma = -1/2Ma
cleaning this up and having acceleration set on one side of the equation I get,
a = 2p/[2m-M]
a = 1.496 m/s^2

And finally I substituted acceleration back into the tangential acceleration equation which was
[alpha] = a/r
[alpha] = 4.18 rad/s^2


Yet, I got the answer wrong. Please help! I've been staring at this problem for too long.
 
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Probably a mistake to assume I = .5mr².
You can figure out the rotational part from
torque = Iα
Tr = I*a/r (where T = tension)
without the assumption.
If you sub this expression for T into the T = p - ma you can solve for acceleration and you'll get a smaller value.
 
I substituted it for T = I[tex]\alpha[/tex]
I used -Ftr = I [a/r]
Them subbed in Ft = P - ma
rma - rP = I a/r

I cleaned it up and still got 4 m/s^2 which still gave me 20 rad/s^2
 
I used -Ftr = I [a/r]
Ah, I didn't have that minus sign. Must rethink the whole thing!
The question specifies counterclockwise as positive, so the first equation should be Ft - p = ma
And the circular one Ft*r = I*a/r
So I*a/r² - p = ma
(I/r² - m) a = p
a = p/(I/r² - m)
a = 4.31/(.0421/.358² - 3.21) = -1.496
so we agree on the number except for the sign. Could the computer be upset over the missing minus sign? It clearly is correct - the p force makes it accelerate clockwise which is defined as negative.
 

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