Solving the Emf Problem: Induced EMF Calculation with Faraday's Law

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The discussion focuses on calculating the induced electromotive force (emf) in a moving square loop within a magnetic field defined by B=Bo/x j Wb/M^2. Participants analyze the magnetic flux through the loop, emphasizing the need to correctly determine the positions of the loop's corners over time. The integration setup for calculating flux is debated, with clarification that since the magnetic field depends only on x, the integration can be simplified by focusing on x and avoiding z. The final consensus highlights the importance of accurately expressing the area and flux to derive the induced emf using Faraday's law. Understanding these concepts is crucial for solving the induced emf problem effectively.
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A magnetic field is given in the xz-plane by B=Bo/x j Wb/M^2. Consider a rigid square loop situated in the xz-plane with its vertices at (Xo,Zo), (Xo,Zo+b),(Xo+a,Zo+b) and (Xo+a,Zo). If the loop is moving in that plane with the velocity V = V_{o}\vec{i} m/s what is the induced emf using Faraday's law

Can someone check my magnetic flux set up


\psi=\int_{s}B\cdot\,ds=\int_{x=0}^{x+Vot} \int_{z=0}^{b}\frac{Bo}{x}\vec{j}\cdot\, dx\,dz\vec{j}
 
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First find the position of the corners of the loop for any time. Remember, both sides of the loop are moving in the x direction (right now you only have one moving, which means your loop is expanding). Don't forget the corners of the loop are at x0 and z0, not 0 and 0.
 
\psi=\int_{s}B\cdot\,ds=\int_{xo}^{xo+Vot} \int_{zo}^{zo+Vot}\frac{Bo}{x}\vec{j}\cdot\, dx\,dz\vec{j}

My problem is that I don't understand well how to get the position of the corners of the loop for any time because there is not even one example with moving loop in the book.
 
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robert25pl said:
A magnetic field is given in the xz-plane by B=Bo/x j Wb/M^2. Consider a rigid square loop situated in the xz-plane with its vertices at (Xo,Zo), (Xo,Zo+b),(Xo+a,Zo+b) and (Xo+a,Zo). If the loop is moving in that plane with the velocity V = V_{o}\vec{i} m/s what is the induced emf using Faraday's law

Can someone check my magnetic flux set up

\psi=\int_{s}B\cdot\,ds=\int_{x=0}^{x+Vot} \int_{z=0}^{b}\frac{Bo}{x}\vec{j}\cdot\, dx\,dz\vec{j}
You want to find the time rate of change of flux so:

Emf = \frac{d\phi}{dt} =\frac{d}{dt}\int_{A}B\cdot dA

To express flux as a function of t:

\phi(x) = \int_{x}^{x + a} b \frac{B_0}{x}dx = bB_0\int_{x}^{x + a} \frac{1}{x}dx = bB_0(ln(\frac{x+a}{x}))

Since x = vt:

\phi(t) = bB_0(ln(\frac{vt+a}{vt}))

So the time rate of change of flux is?...

AM
 
So my approach is wrong?

\psi=\int_{s}B\cdot\,ds=\int_{xo}^{xo+Vot} \int_{zo}^{zo+Vot}\frac{Bo}{x}\vec{j}\cdot\, dx\,dz\vec{j}

and then find emf

\oint_{c}E\cdot\,dl=-\frac{d}{dt} \int_{s}B\cdot dS

I know my set up of position of corners at any time could be wrong, but why didn't you integrate wrt dz. I understand that the magnetic field is independent of z. Thanks
 
robert25pl said:
So my approach is wrong?

\psi=\int_{s}B\cdot\,ds=\int_{xo}^{xo+Vot} \int_{zo}^{zo+Vot}\frac{Bo}{x}\vec{j}\cdot\, dx\,dz\vec{j}
Just a little confused.

and then find emf

\oint_{c}E\cdot\,dl= -\frac{d}{dt} \int_{s}B\cdot dS

I know my set up of position of corners at any time could be wrong, but why didn't you integrate wrt dz. I understand that the magnetic field is independent of z.
The left side is just the electric potential or emf. The right side is the rate of change of flux (I prefer to use A for area to avoid confusion with Ampere's law.)

To work out the flux through the loop, you have to integrate B over the area. But B is a function of x only, so you can avoid integrating over z by simply letting dA = bdx and integrating over x only. Dividing the area into little strips of length b and width dx and integrating B from x = x to x = x+a gives you the
total flux at a given point.

AM
 
Now I understood very well. Thank you very much.
 
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