Sound Waves (simple harmonic motion and pressure dilemma)

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The discussion centers on the conceptual confusion regarding the relationship between sound waves and simple harmonic motion. The equations for sound wave displacement and pressure variance indicate that velocity is out of phase with pressure by pi radians, which contrasts with the expected behavior in simple harmonic motion where acceleration is out of phase with displacement. The key insight is that the net force acting on an air parcel in a sound wave is due to the pressure gradient rather than the acoustic pressure itself. This parallels the behavior of a wave in a string, where the tension gradient plays a similar role. Understanding this distinction clarifies the dynamics of sound waves in relation to simple harmonic motion.
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I've encountered a bit of a conceptual problem in my studies and I was hoping someone could help me out with this:

I understand that the longitudinal sound wave takes the form of the equation s(x,t) = smcos(kx +/- wt), and that the equation for pressure variance produced by the sound wave takes the equation p(x,t) = pmsin(kx +/- wt). I also understand that the velocity of an air element experiencing a wave can be found by taking the partial derivative of the s(x,t) equation with respect to whatever variable you feel like, and that the velocity will be out of phase from your pressure variance equation by pi radians. What I do NOT understand is this.

In simple harmonic motion (the kind of motion I understand a sound wave to be in) your acceleration and therefore your force is out of phase with displacement by pi radians, not velocity. At maximum displacement from equilibrium, you should experience your greatest acceleration and therefore your greatest force (since in simple harmonic motion, f = cx). With sound waves, however, you experience your greatest pressure at equilibrium, when your velocity is greatest - an idea counter-intuitive to the principles of simple harmonic motion.

Where I feel I've gone wrong is here: perhaps the pressure variance is not the force causing the air elements to oscillate, but if that were the case, where does the force come from?
 
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What kind of simple harmonic motion are you envisioning, a wave in a string?

In a spring-mass harmonic oscillator, would you agree that the restoring force is in phase with displacement due to Hooke's law?
 
olivermsun said:
What kind of simple harmonic motion are you envisioning, a wave in a string?

I'm speaking of sound waves specifically.

In a spring-mass harmonic oscillator, would you agree that the restoring force is in phase with displacement due to Hooke's law?

Well, I had figured the force would be out of phase by pi radians because the force is directed in the opposite direction of displacement (F = - Cx).
 
Sorry I misunderstood earlier.

It may be helpful to realize that the net force on an air parcel is not due to the acoustic pressure, but the pressure gradient.
(It actually is just like the example of a wave in a string, except there it's tension gradient).
 
Ah, right. Thank you.
 
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