Speed of a pendulum at the bottom

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The discussion revolves around determining the speed of a pendulum at the bottom of its swing, utilizing concepts from mechanics and energy conservation. The participants explore the relationship between potential and kinetic energy in the context of a pendulum's motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to relate potential energy and kinetic energy. There are attempts to express the height in terms of other parameters, and questions arise regarding the determination of height in the absence of explicit values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on using conservation of energy principles, while others are exploring different interpretations of the height variable. There is an ongoing examination of the relationships between the variables involved, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final expression.

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Participants note the absence of specific height information and discuss the implications of this missing data on their calculations. There are references to geometric relationships that may aid in determining height, but these remain under consideration.

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U = (1/2)kx^2
T = 2 * π * (m/k)^ (1/2)

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I said that the angular velocity is

w = (2 * π) / t

And the equation for velocity would be:

v(t) = -Aw * cos (w * t)

However, I don't know how to relate this to the speed at the bottom. I was thinking of using conservation of energy, but I don't have the height.
 

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The conservation of energy will work. The potential energy + the kinetic energy = the total energy is a constant. If you take the potential energy as zero at the bottom of the path, the total energy at that point is all kinetic energy. If you start from rest, the total energy at the start is all potential energy. So the kinetic energy at the bottom is equal to the potential energy at the start. You know that the potential energy is mgh and the kinetic energy is mv^2/2 so all you need to do is determine what h is in terms of the parameters of the problem.
 
Fontseeker said:
I don't have the height.
Ask Pythagoras for help on that one.

Alternatively, you can rule out all but one of the answers quite quickly.
 
haruspex said:
Ask Pythagoras for help on that one.

Alternatively, you can rule out all but one of the answers quite quickly.

Alright, so if I use conservation of energy:

(1/2)mv^2 = mgh
v = (2gh)^(1/2)

The height would be h = (L^2 -x^2)^(1/2)
so the Velocity = (2g * (L^2 -x^2)^(1/2))^(1/2)

That doesn't show up on the answers.
 
Fontseeker said:
The height would be h = (L^2 -x^2)^(1/2)
Not quite. Look again.
 

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