Speed with a de Broglie wavelength.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the speed of an electron based on its de Broglie wavelength for various values, including 1.0 pm, 1.0 nm, 1.0 µm, and 1.0 mm. Participants are exploring the implications of their calculations and the potential for error in their results.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the de Broglie wavelength formula and are questioning the validity of their results, particularly regarding the speed of light as a limit. Some are considering the need for relativistic corrections in their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising concerns about the accuracy of their calculations and the possibility of errors in the problem setup. There is no consensus yet, but some guidance has been suggested regarding the use of relativistic formulas.

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Participants are grappling with potentially incorrect values and the implications of relativistic effects on their calculations. There is uncertainty about the correctness of the original problem as posed.

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1. At what speed is an electron's de Broglie wavelength:
(a) 1.0 pm
(b) 1.0 nm
(c) 1.0 \mum
(d) 1.0 mm
2. \lambda = \frac{h}{mv}
3. I have solved for v, and I plugged in values, it gives me, for a = 4.54 x 10^(27) m/s, the ANSWER is: 2.77 x 10^(8) ms, it's way off, I tried converting energy into Js it also did not work, what am I overlooking?
 
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Is it possible that my teacher is wrong? I think she copied down her answer wrong on my paper...
 
I am not sure on this one, should you perhaps take into account the relativistic speed?
\lambda = \frac{h}{m \gamma v}

For a I get:
v = \frac{h}{m \lambda} = \frac{6.63 \times 10^{-34}}{(9.109 \times 10^{-31})(1\times 10^{-12})} = 7.28 \times 10^8 \text{m/s}
This is higher than the speed of light and can therefore never be correct.


Your answer of 4.54 x 10^27 m/s is ridiculously high. The answer can NEVER be more than the speed of light which is approximately 3.0 x 10^8 m/s.


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Using 2.77 x 10^8 as the speed, you get a wavelength of 2.63 x 10^-12 m or 2.63 ps. Something wrong with the question maybe?
 
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The formula with the relativistic momentum in Nick89's post will give the correct answer.
 

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