Static structural ansys, rigid body boundary condition

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A new user in ANSYS is attempting to simulate a static test for a bus seat, facing challenges in applying force to rigid bars that push the seat back. Suggestions include assigning the bars a very large but finite stiffness instead of treating them as completely rigid. The user is also considering applying force directly to the seat back but is uncertain about the results. After running the simulation with rigid behavior, the user encountered an error and seeks assistance in understanding the issue. The discussion emphasizes the importance of realistic modeling in finite element analysis.
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hi guys, i am new user on ansys
i have task from my lecturer. it is about static test for seat bus. i try simulate the seat bus on ansys statical structural. you can see my model on attachment (untitle1.png).
at that picture, there are 2 bars will push the seat back. the stiffness beahvior of that bars is rigid. and the seat bus is flexible.
for the boundary condition : (you can see on the attachment picture, untitle5.png)
1. fix support on the floorpan
2. force on the bars

the problem :
i can't give force to that bars (rigid), can you give me some advice how to give force to that bars or ,the alternatif solution, how to give force to that seat back without that bars?

thanks
 

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All real material bodies have finite flexibility, so there really does not seem to be any point to knocking yourself out to model that which cannot exist. Instead, why not assign these elements some very large, but finite, stiffness?
 
wow, never thought about it, to give large stiffness to the push bar. thank you very much
but what if i change the bar and then give force directly to the seat back. will the result same?
 
It would be the same if you could apply the same force that acts between the very stiff support and the seat. The problem is, you cannot know that force a priori. Stick with the very stiff back brace.
 
hmmm, oke thanks
i already did the simulation, with rigid behavior, and i got an eror, idk why, i will show you the eror message latter, hope you can tell me why eror occured.
but i will try your suggestion, hope the simulation will not eror.
thanks sir :)
 
sir, when i use the push bar as rigid body, i got this message as an eror
anyone can tell me, why i got this message?
 

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