Statics Friction problem -- A 500lb box is being pushed up a ramp

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A 500lb box on a 10-degree ramp has a static friction coefficient of 0.35 and a kinetic coefficient of 0.28. The force required to slide the box is calculated as 224.7lb, using the resolved weight components and the kinetic friction. To determine the tipping force, a moment equation about the tipping point is suggested, taking into account the distance of the applied force from the center of mass. It is noted that the box will slide before it tips if static friction is insufficient. The box's dimensions and the height at which the force is applied are also relevant to the tipping calculation.
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Homework Statement


A 500lb box is being pushed up a ramp which is sloped at 10 deg. The center of mass of the box is at the geometric center of the shown area. If the static coefficient of friction is 0.35 and the kinetic coefficient of friction is 0.28, what is the force P that will cause the box to tip? What is the force P that will cause the box to slide?

Homework Equations


*I resolved the weight into x and y components as my online homework allows me to set the axis to whatever I want, so I set it to move 10 degrees.
Wx=Weight*sin(10)
Wy=Weight*cos(10)[/B]
ΣFx:0=P-Slipping Force-Wx
ΣFy:0=N-Wy
Slipping force= μ(kinetic)N
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The Attempt at a Solution


So I solved for the force P that causes the box to slide by the sum of the forces in the x direction.
P=Slipping Force+Wx
P=μ(kinetic)N+Weight*sin(10)
P=.28*Weight*cos(10)+Weight*sin(10)
P=.28*500*cos(10)+(500*sin(10))=224.7lb

That is correct, but I keep getting the wrong answer for the force that causes the box to tip. I am using a moment equation about the right bottom corner of the box(it is being pushed from the left, top side) and setting it equal to zero. Is a moment equation the right way to go about this or am I using the wrong approach?
 
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A moment equation about the point where the box will tip is the correct approach. How far off the center of mass does the force P push?

Note that it would be impossible to tip the box if the static friction doesn't give enough counter force. So in other words the box would slip before it would tip.
 
P is pushing 15in above the center of the box. The box's dimensions (probably should've included) are
Height=70in
width=30in
The distance from the bottom to force P is 50 in
 
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